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Re: Stay Gold, America

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That's a big lie promoted by the republicans who don't like mail-in voting because democrats use it more [1]. There is still absolutely no evidence that any fraud ever happened with that system. [1] https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/13/politics/trump-mail-in-vo...

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This is an extremely poor analogy, and it doesn't change the objective fact that mail-in voting is provably, measurably secure.

Re: Stay Gold, America

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I've often wondered why our politicians should be so rich. Why are so many of them millionaires? It would be nice to have laws preventing this, somehow. Or maybe force them to donate x% of their wealth to the areas they represent every year, in addition to the standard taxes. Do politicians even pay taxes? :)

Maybe the people who serve society at the highest levels should also have the biggest stake in its successful outcomes.

But they are already rich, so the only thing they've been concentrating on is wealth preservation of their own class. To what consequences is quite nicely laid out by the blog post by Jeff.

Re: Stay Gold, America

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post #58

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That's a big lie promoted by the republicans who don't like mail-in voting because democrats use it more [1]. There is still absolutely no evidence that any fraud ever happened with that system. [1] https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/13/politics/trump-mail-in-vo...

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That kind of thing happens to people that do lock their doors all the time. So clearly, the usage of locks and lack thereof are not the issue.

Re: Stay Gold, America

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post #96
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a big lie promoted by the republicans who don't like mail-in voting because democrats use it more [1]. There is still absolutely no evidence that any fraud ever happened with that system. [1] https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/13/politics/trump-mail-in-vo...

No evidence yet . I guess we might find out more in the next 4 years when it is investigated properly. If you want to put elections beyond doubt and make everyone accept the result you should have voter ID and paper ballots. The public holiday idea is probably not a bad one.

What do you mean? There is no evidence at all that Trump won by voter fraud.

Re: Stay Gold, America

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I agree on the principle, but I want to argue a small point. You say intelligence, when I think an average IQ person who studies policy as a hobby and puts time and effort into being informed will be vastly more capable of proper governance than a 115-120IQ person who doesn’t put the time in. I think the main thing here is education and information distribution and how (in our case, poorly) we set up the infrastructu…

People who study policy as a hobby have an unfortunate tendency to fall into reddit bubbles of like minded individuals, think in theories only and loose touch with with how the world actually operate back on earth.

We have systematically annihilated the traditional alternative sources of community that would put people in contact with local, on-the-ground politics. Individuals, left isolated, often end up participating in a bastardized facade of politics built on media consumption. If you want to improve this you have to address the systems creating the isolation.

If it’s not people who study policy as a hobby, then who ought to be voting?

Re: Stay Gold, America

#106
post #96
post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a big lie promoted by the republicans who don't like mail-in voting because democrats use it more [1]. There is still absolutely no evidence that any fraud ever happened with that system. [1] https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/13/politics/trump-mail-in-vo...

No evidence yet . I guess we might find out more in the next 4 years when it is investigated properly. If you want to put elections beyond doubt and make everyone accept the result you should have voter ID and paper ballots. The public holiday idea is probably not a bad one.

If evidence did exist, would CNN rush to report it? Would they bury it until they were forced to report on it? If they did report on it, would they minimize it with spin?

Re: Stay Gold, America

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post #96
post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a big lie promoted by the republicans who don't like mail-in voting because democrats use it more [1]. There is still absolutely no evidence that any fraud ever happened with that system. [1] https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/13/politics/trump-mail-in-vo...

No evidence yet . I guess we might find out more in the next 4 years when it is investigated properly. If you want to put elections beyond doubt and make everyone accept the result you should have voter ID and paper ballots. The public holiday idea is probably not a bad one.

Investigate anything hard enough and it’ll tell you whatever you want to hear. Hard to imagine any result to that investigation that would be universally accepted.

Why not apply a little bit of technology to the problem so we can verify our vote was counted, and that only legitimate votes were counted?

Re: Stay Gold, America

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Maybe the people who serve society at the highest levels should also have the biggest stake in its successful outcomes.

"serve society"? More like help themselves to the loot, while driving society to the ground...

Yet when some claim the public sector is corrupt, filled with looters and should therefore be cut, the opposition demands that the public sector should be expanded instead.

Re: Stay Gold, America

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post #96
post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a big lie promoted by the republicans who don't like mail-in voting because democrats use it more [1]. There is still absolutely no evidence that any fraud ever happened with that system. [1] https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/13/politics/trump-mail-in-vo...

No evidence yet . I guess we might find out more in the next 4 years when it is investigated properly. If you want to put elections beyond doubt and make everyone accept the result you should have voter ID and paper ballots. The public holiday idea is probably not a bad one.

It was already investigated "properly"... Republicans states have been going crazy over it since at least 2016. If there was any evidence of it would have been found by now, now it's just another red herring.

Agreed on your second paragraph.

Re: Stay Gold, America

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Having lived in a country with compulsory voting (Argentina), I find the notion charming but I can scarcely say it leads to more intelligent outcomes.

Compulsory voting removes an important signal where participation indicates the legitimacy. Which is why very few democracies have compulsory voting. Having 70-80-90% participation with non-compulsory voting should be the goal of any self respecting democracy and politicians who reject measures to increase voter turnout should be viewed with extreme suspicion.

> Compulsory voting removes an important signal where participation indicates the legitimacy.

Australia has compulsory voting and retains this: the legal req is to show up and get your name marked off.

If you wish to communicate your dissatisfaction with the available candidates, then you then fill out your ballot with a giant penis and go on your merry way.

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