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Nvidia's Project Digits is a 'personal AI supercomputer'

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Re: Nvidia's Project Digits is a 'personal AI supercomputer'

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Would consider at a lower price of $500 USD, way too expensive for what it brings.

I think it's cheap at $3000. 128gb RAM, top of the line GPU capabilities, 4tb storage... it's much better than what a top shelf mbp can do and much cheaper

This definitely loses on CPU performance.

Re: Nvidia's Project Digits is a 'personal AI supercomputer'

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I believe $3,000 is for the unmentioned minimum config, no idea on the mentioned 4TB storage and 128GB ram version. Running a 96GB ram model isn't cheap (often with unified memory 25% is reserved for CPUs), so maybe it will win there.

The NVIDIA press release [0] says "Each Project DIGITS features 128GB of unified, coherent memory and up to 4TB of NVMe storage", which makes it sound like the RAM is fixed size. [0] https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/nvidia-puts-grace-blackwe...

Awesome.

Maybe there will be storage options of 1,2,and 4TB and optional 25/100/200/400 GBit interfaces. Or maybe everything except the CPU/GPU is constant, but having a 50%, 75%, or 100% of the CPU/GPU cores so they can bin their chips.

Re: Nvidia's Project Digits is a 'personal AI supercomputer'

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I feel this is bigger than the 5x series GPUs. Given the craze around AI/LLMs, this can also potentially eat into Apple’s slice of the enthusiast AI dev segment once the M4 Max/Ultra Mac minis are released. I sure wished I held some Nvidia stocks, they seem to be doing everything right in the last few years!

Am I the only one disappointed by these? They cost roughly half the price of a macbook pro and offer hmm.. half the capacity in RAM. Sure speed matters in AI, but what do I do with speed when I can't load a 70b model. On the other hand, with a $5000 macbook pro, I can easily load a 70b model and have a "full" macbook pro as a plus. I am not sure I fully understand the value of these cards for someone that want to run…

Are you, perhaps, commenting on the wrong thread? Project Digits is a $3k 128GB computer.. the best your your $5K MBP can have for ram is.. 128GB.

Re: Nvidia's Project Digits is a 'personal AI supercomputer'

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"garden hermit" is a very interesting and evocative phrase. Where is that from?

It's a real thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden_hermit In the past, in Europe, some wealthy people used to look after of a scholar living on their premises so they can ask them questions etc.

aha, this is really something. I just got around to watching "Furiosa" last night. So something like having a personal "history man" (although, my take on the whole Mad Max series is that it's just bottled up fear-porn about white settlers going uncivilized and becoming "tribal" - a colonial horror tale, "The Heart of Darkness" with motorcycles - common anywhere a relatively small group spread themselves out on a lot of ill-gotten land, did some nasty deeds and lost touch with the mothership).

In the Furiosa context, it's a bit like a medicine man or shaman, then. A private, unreliable source of verbal hand me downs, whose main utility is to make elites feel like they have access to knowledge without needing to acquire it for themselves or question its veracity.

We really are entering a new dark age.

Re: Nvidia's Project Digits is a 'personal AI supercomputer'

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The quotes I've seen mention the maximum config (128GB ram and 4TB of storage) and the minimum price. Nothing saying $3k for 128GB ram and 4TB of storage. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm betting the max price is at least twice the minimum price.

It's GB200 in desktop compatible enclosure, the RAM is fixed, the SSDs are not, the network ports are fixed too.

The CPU is apparently the result of a "secret" project that wasn't on published roadmaps. It's called the GB110. So maybe they will offer differently binned CPU/GPUs with a different fraction of cores disabled and you can pick your SSD.

Re: Nvidia's Project Digits is a 'personal AI supercomputer'

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$3000? The GB10 inside it seems to be a half of GB200 which is like $60K. One can wonder about availability at those $3K.

TheRegister mentions:

   Specs we’ve seen suggest the GB10 features a 20-core Grace CPU and a GPU that packs manages a 40th the performance of the twin Blackwell GPUs used in Nvidia’s GB200 AI server.

Re: Nvidia's Project Digits is a 'personal AI supercomputer'

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On the CPU size the Neoverse N2 doesn't compete particularly well with apple's M4, or the Zen5 for the matter. Bit bit hard to tell what's on offer on the GPU side, I wouldn't be surprised if it was RTX 4070 to 5070 in that range. If the price/perf is high enough $3k wouldn't be a bad deal, I suspect a Strix Halo (better CPU cores, 256GB/sec memory interface, likely slower GPU cores) will be better price/perf, same m…

AI work happens predominantly on the GPU, not the CPU. This GPU with CUDA will run rings around M4 with MLX. And with much more RAM than you can get in a Mac for $3k. A lot of people have been justifying their Mac Studio or Mac Pro purchases by the potential for running large AI models locally. Project Digits will be much better at that for cheaper. Maybe it won't run compile Chromium as fast, but that's not what it'…

Remember: inference is memory bound.

https://www.databricks.com/blog/llm-inference-performance-en...

Re: Nvidia's Project Digits is a 'personal AI supercomputer'

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If I were NVidia, I would be throwing everything I could at making entertainment experiences that need one of these to run... I mean, this is awfully close to being "Her" in a box, right?

I feel like a lot of people miss that Her was a dystopian future, not an ideal to hit. Also, it’s $3000. For that you could buy subscriptions to OpenAI etc and have the dystopian partner everywhere you go.

Fun fact: Her was set in the year 2025.

Re: Nvidia's Project Digits is a 'personal AI supercomputer'

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I think it's cheap at $3000. 128gb RAM, top of the line GPU capabilities, 4tb storage... it's much better than what a top shelf mbp can do and much cheaper

This definitely loses on CPU performance.

I originally thought so, since the previous Grace CPUs used the neoverse N2, which loses to Apple's M4 cores.

However apparently 10 of the cores are the Cortex-X925 CPUs, which are a serious upgrade. Basically 10 performance cores and 10 efficiency cores that should be pretty competitive with any current apple CPU.

Re: Nvidia's Project Digits is a 'personal AI supercomputer'

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Am I the only one disappointed by these? They cost roughly half the price of a macbook pro and offer hmm.. half the capacity in RAM. Sure speed matters in AI, but what do I do with speed when I can't load a 70b model. On the other hand, with a $5000 macbook pro, I can easily load a 70b model and have a "full" macbook pro as a plus. I am not sure I fully understand the value of these cards for someone that want to run…

Then buy two and stack them! Also I'm unfamiliar with macs is there really a MacBook pro with 256GB of RAM?

No, macbooks pro cap at 128GB. But, still, they are a laptop. It'll be interesting to see if Apple can offer a good counter for the desktop. The mac pro can go to 192Gb which is closer to the 128Gb Digits + your Desktop machine. At $9299 price tag, it's not too competitive but close.
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