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Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Post by philistine »

ozmodiar wrote: post #736
itsoktocry wrote: post #660

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I'm sure people directly affected agree with you, but it's been downhill for this regime since the trucker protest. We are literally still talking about it, right now. I cannot comprehend how it could be overwhelmingly supported.

As a Canadian I haven't heard about the trucker protest since they happened. It was bizarre seeing it come up as the top discussion point in this thread and seems like a big mismatch between American and Canadian perception of what's going on.

ABSOLUTELY! This is clearly what right-wing Americans know of Trudeau and nothing more.

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Post by Tainnor »

bluecheese452 wrote: post #832
bawolff wrote: post #377

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People on hn seem weirdly obsessed with trudeau's handling of the trucker protest. Regardless of what you think of it, at this point it is very old news and trudeau's actions were controversial but largely popular. The handling of the trucker protest is not why he resigned. It is not why he is unpopular.

Hacker News is pretty much far right when it comes to politics. Heck the moderators refused to allow any criticism of the monarchy when the queen died but allowed it when Jimmy Carter died.

> Hacker News is pretty much far right when it comes to politics.

Not necessarily always far-right, but almost obsessively anti-establishment.

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Post by pkd »

VancouverMan wrote: post #392
bryanlarsen wrote: post #170

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> minorly-inconvenienced 120dB train horns at 2AM in the morning in a residential area is not a minor inconvenience.

> a residential area Have you ever actually been to downtown Ottawa, where those protests were held? It's not "a residential area" in any sense. The moderately-wide Ottawa River forms the north-west edge of the downtown area. Along it are the Alexandra Bridge, Major's Hill Park, the Rideau Canal, Parliament Hill, the Supreme Court, Library and Archives Canada, and other government-related buildings and infrastructure…

Were you in the location at that time? Because you are speculating based on a perfunctory knowledge of the map. I live in this "non-residential" area along with tens of thousands of others. The truckers were not just occupying Wellington, they were on all streets till Somerset between Elgin and Bronson. And hundreds of vehicles blaring horns together reaches very far.

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Post by philistine »

nemo44x wrote: post #133
dylan604 wrote: post #70

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Trump I feel like a single word should explain it, but I know HN abhors single word responses. Trump has threatened tariffs and has mentioned annexing Canada. He's also mentioned buying Greenland, trading Puerto Rico for Greenland, and a bunch of other notions.

Greenland actually makes a lot of sense. I think if every citizen there was offered $5million they’d vote yes. And it’s entirely reasonable from the USA perspective as it’s not that much overall for the US. Probably wouldn’t make a state but treat like Puerto Rico where they continue to self govern and citizens can freely move to the USA as they’d have USA passports. For USA very strategic naval passages and mineral…

China buying the US actually makes a lot of sense. I think if every citizen there was offered $5million they’d vote yes.

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Post by pkd »

csense wrote: post #34

Patio11 has some good coverage of Trudeau's handling of the trucker protest against the government's handling of COVID-19 [1]. Whatever you think of the truckers' position or protest tactics, any punishment for their actions ought to go through the laws and court system. Trudeau instead essentially told the banking system "You can't do business with those people, they're terrorists." Patio11's words of what happened…

As somebody who lived in Ottawa at the time, this was not good coverage. Neither was DHH's. It was incredibly rage-inducing to read in real time as it was happening too. My takeaway from this is that one should minimize the confidence in one's opinion of foreign events.

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Post by interestica »

ygjb wrote: post #385
interestica wrote: post #253

He has not (yet) resigned. He has announced his intention to resign. He will step down when a new leader is selected via the internal Liberal leadership race. Additionally, Parliament is prorogued until March 24 via his request of the Governor-General. “Trudeau to resign as prime minister after Liberal leadership race” https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-news-conference-1.7...

True, but this is normal; two other Prime Ministers have taken this approach over the last 30 years, Brian Mulroney and Jean Chretien both announced their intention to resign, and then held leadership conventions to select a new party leader before actually resigning.

I was clarifying since the original headline (‘Trudeau resigns’) would be misleading to many and especially to an international audience with different types of leadership (eg a president) - especially since the original source for this was the British broadcaster. While it’s not the norm, he would still have the ability to resign immediately and have someone act in the interim (unless I’m mistaken) until the new leader is selected or force a new election.

(The new link and headline are now accurate and reflect the actual situation.)

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Post by ClayShentrup »

dralley wrote: post #129
nindalf wrote: post #25

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Alaska got Ranked Choice Voting and after every election cycle where a Democrat wins they're up in arms about how it's bad. This time the repeal effort got within a whisker of succeeding, while the Democrat (Mary Peltola) lost her congressional seat. RCV encourages moderation, meaning candidates like Peltola and Senator Murkowski (R) win statewide office. This distresses people who feel like such moderates are very f…

Ranked choice isn't the only alternative voting system that encourages moderation. Approval voting is vastly simpler to understand and implement and also accomplishes many of the same benefits. Simplicity is an underrated value when it comes to elections. People are more likely to trust that which they can easily understand. And ranked choice, fairly or not tends to cause a lot of confusion.

approval voting is also just more accurate and resistant to tactical behavior.

https://www.rangevoting.org/BayRegsFig

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Post by cryptonector »

fknorangesite wrote: post #821
cryptonector wrote: post #737

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The meme goes that in Canada if you have an expensive healthcare need the government will offer euthanasia. Is that not true? How come euthanasia is now the fourth leading cause of death in Canada?

You shouldn't be putting so much stock in memes.

According to Google it's 4.7% of deaths in 2024 in Canada. This story says it's the fifth leading cause of death: https://www.ncbcenter.org/messages-from-presidents/maidcanad...

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Post by SpecialistK »

wsmith94333 wrote: post #883
SpecialistK wrote: post #469

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I'll quote my own comment on the trucker situation from a year and a half ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37450666 > It's a story of everyone going way too far. > The government(s) went way overboard with Pfizer proof of purchase QR codes to get lunch. Especially when uptake was 80%+ > They also went overboard by locking down again over the holidays when everyone was already catching the most contagious Omi…

You mentioned specifically restrictions on lunch. Do you just mean that there are more office workers eating lunch because it is during the day? Or were the vaccine passport rules different depending on what meal or time of day?

It was just an example - in most places the vaccine passports were required for any sit down service where you have a server (not fast food or to go orders)

Quebec did impose curfews, and overall had the strictest restrictions by a long way. Around the time of the protests there were plans to tax or fine the unvaccinated and big box retailers were already restricting access to all parts of the store save for the pharmacy.

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