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Re: 3blue1brown YouTube Bitcoin video taken down as copyright violation

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Post by Zpalmtree »

dowakin wrote: post #51
RobertDeNiro wrote: post #23

from https://x.com/ChainPatrol/status/1876300596182983151 " Hello! This was a false positive in our systems at @ChainPatrol . We are retracting the takedown request, and will conduct a full post-mortem to ensure this does not happen again. We have been combatting a huge volume of fake YouTube videos that are attempting to steal user funds. Unfortunately, in our mission to protect users from scams, false positives (ve…

Haha, they see themselves as ‘good cops,’ deciding what content is acceptable and what isn’t. It’s not even about copyright—it’s about what they think is good for users and what isn’t. And in the process of playing ‘police’ they end up taking down one of the best videos explaining how Bitcoin works.

Phishing scam videos are not good for anyone, why would you want people impersonating your brand stealing your users funds?

Re: 3blue1brown YouTube Bitcoin video taken down as copyright violation

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Post by NegativeK »

kepano wrote: post #16

You have to think of YouTube and other platforms as a mechanism for distribution, not a source of truth. If you're a creator it's essential to have your own place on the web were you can host and publish anything without fear that it will be taken down for any reason — even accidentally. As it becomes cheap to automate both creating takedown requests and processing requests, the volume of spam requests is going to sk…

If a content creator hosts their own videos and then Youtube nukes their channel, they're still going to be hurt by it since Youtube is often the bulk of their audience. The other sharing platforms (even if they aren't video focused) are also going to be able to nuke your distribution channel, so the creator is no better that way. Maybe an email list? Heh.

I don't know the last time I actually went to someone's website for video content. Maybe a business, for instructional videos? But those are either inset Youtube videos or are actually annoying to watch.

If the advice is for people to not depend on revenue from their content creation, that might be a fair point. But I feel like the effort of saying that might be better aimed at telling the hosting platforms to not be asses.

(Then again, I don't believe that large social media platforms can be effectively moderated -- so I'm not much help here either. I have no clue how the content creation industry would fit into that world.)

Re: 3blue1brown YouTube Bitcoin video taken down as copyright violation

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Post by milesvp »

mjburgess wrote: post #133
bhk wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Taken at face value, this implies their copyright infringement claim was fraudulent, but in pursuit of a higher good. But according to many replies to that tweet, they were actually working on behalf of actual copyright infringers. Not sure what to believe.

It's common for one set of scammers to target another, to take their competitors out. So it's quite possible for them to be abusing the copyright system to take-out scamming competitors.

Heh, PirateSoftware, he talks about this, being both sec ops and having worked at blizzard. Apparently it's really common for the big coin farmers (which blizzard doesn't like, and would ban if they could identify all the players) to tell blizzard about zero day exploits to prevent their competitors from using them and crashing the market for gold.

Re: 3blue1brown YouTube Bitcoin video taken down as copyright violation

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Post by username135 »

mathgeek wrote: post #118
tivert wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Taco Bell won the franchise war and is the only restaurant remaining. When I saw that movie when I was small, I thought that was literally Taco Bell, McDonald's, and Burger King, et al fighting with tanks, etc. Taco Bell emerged victorious after a bloody struggle.

This is the first time I have considered that it wasn’t them blowing up each other’s franchises.

I will believe ehat i want to believe

Re: 3blue1brown YouTube Bitcoin video taken down as copyright violation

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Post by j45 »

I hope YouTube can make this a better experience extremely soon.

With YouTube video being used as a proxy for credible content on search results..

3 relatively anonymous complaints, in bad faithc can end so much learning and work… without evidence or reply kind of is deterring from having great content on YouTube.

The deterrent to creating good content on YouTube lets the bad content win, except it might not keep the eyeballs for advertising as well or broadly.

I’m not sure if the complainant must be required to contact the channel prior to accepting a dmca complaint? EBay has a built in messaging system, maybe YouTube can too.

Further if there’s ways creators can be protecting their creations before posting they should be built into the workflow, whether it’s registering custom music, etc.

Otherwise the price of success is targetable in an automated fashion to take down a channel if they don’t comply or pay out.

A channel inbox might force behaviour into first creator to creator before escalating straight to too easily triggering things.

Maybe new complainants found to have too many complaints in short order or some other pattern could possibly have to pass much higher kyc requirements to help each other communicate more effectively.

Re: 3blue1brown YouTube Bitcoin video taken down as copyright violation

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Post by NegativeK »

avianlyric wrote: post #72
pbhjpbhj wrote: post #15

Surely YouTube making a knowingly false allegation of tortfeasance against someone is libel. That should be actionable, possibly in a group action? Continued libel that inhibits the democratic exercise of free speech seems like something the government should act on?

> Surely YouTube making a knowingly false allegation of tortfeasance against someone is libel. It's hardly libel for YouTube to state that they've received a copyright claim, and taken the video down as a consequence. They're just stating facts, they're not making any assertions regarding the accuracy or correctness of the copyright claim, simply stating that it exists. > Continued libel that inhibits the democratic…

It feels like the org issuing the copyright claims would be at fault for any lost revenue.

If the org hadn't issued the false claim, the channel wouldn't've had the video taken down. If a channel hits three strikes for it and is nuked in entirety, the lost revenue is even larger.

Re: 3blue1brown YouTube Bitcoin video taken down as copyright violation

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Post by andrewinardeer »

wil421 wrote: post #5

The year is 2030. After the AI bot wars, FaceBook and Google have been crippled. They let AI automation control their content and it was deleted after OpenAI GPT10 discovered vulnerabilities in automated copyright strikes. Taco Bell won the franchise war and is the only restaurant remaining.

The President of the United States is a Tamagotchi.

Re: 3blue1brown YouTube Bitcoin video taken down as copyright violation

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Post by techjamie »

dowakin wrote: post #51
RobertDeNiro wrote: post #23

from https://x.com/ChainPatrol/status/1876300596182983151 " Hello! This was a false positive in our systems at @ChainPatrol . We are retracting the takedown request, and will conduct a full post-mortem to ensure this does not happen again. We have been combatting a huge volume of fake YouTube videos that are attempting to steal user funds. Unfortunately, in our mission to protect users from scams, false positives (ve…

Haha, they see themselves as ‘good cops,’ deciding what content is acceptable and what isn’t. It’s not even about copyright—it’s about what they think is good for users and what isn’t. And in the process of playing ‘police’ they end up taking down one of the best videos explaining how Bitcoin works.

They probably should've consulted with a lawyer before making that statement. It sounds like a footgun that would help any prospective litigant build a case against you.

Re: 3blue1brown YouTube Bitcoin video taken down as copyright violation

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Post by TeMPOraL »

intended wrote: post #214
mattskr wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am okay with this timeline. At least it has better conversation topics than most of our current timeline.

Talk to trust and safety teams, should never run out of topics that make you question reality.

That's the thing, the fake reality makes more sense than even the real unreal things.

Life imitates art, but it sucks at it.

Re: 3blue1brown YouTube Bitcoin video taken down as copyright violation

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Post by spiritplumber »

wil421 wrote: post #5

The year is 2030. After the AI bot wars, FaceBook and Google have been crippled. They let AI automation control their content and it was deleted after OpenAI GPT10 discovered vulnerabilities in automated copyright strikes. Taco Bell won the franchise war and is the only restaurant remaining.

I was there for the Pizza War in San Rafael.

https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2011/02/04/pizza-war-leaves-mor...

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