At this rate, people will just accept AI Overlords without any battle or revolution.
We are past that point. People will accept anything without resistance.
My little sister's use of ChatGPT for homework is heartbreaking
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Re: My little sister's use of ChatGPT for homework is heartbreaking
#212Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Chinese room metaphor is an argument about AI, or computation more generally, attempting to distinguish the difference between performance metrics and "understanding". There is the role of the human within the metaphor, and the argument/position of the metaphor as a whole. I don't think it makes much sense to talk about the "point/argument/position of a single component of the metaphor. At least, that wasn't how…
The Chinese Room metaphor is also about consciousness , about thought in general.
In other words: it's an argument that would work perfectly fine to defend the idea that humans have no consciousness.
Ergo it can only really prove that either humans have no consciousness/soul/... (whatever you name the magical human property) or that it doesn't exist at all.
Re: My little sister's use of ChatGPT for homework is heartbreaking
#213I find my self using LLMs for very simple things, to jog my memory instead of actually exercising it. Yesterday I asked Claude how to format a numeric string in Ruby. I could have figured it out in the REPL in a minute but instead got the answer from AI in 15 seconds. This is the same kind of laziness as using it to multiply 60 * 3. If I take the slightly slower road of figuring out the string formatting next time I…
I do the same thing. Maybe I shouldn't take the GenAI shortcuts but there's only so much I can remember. And everyone wants things done faster, all the time. So, by not using generative AI and figuring everything out for yourself because it's good for your metal exercise, is that fair to your employer who wants more, faster? And what will your output look like compared to your peers who hop straight to a chat prompt…
I think it's ~dangerous to center this question because "more, faster" (and cheaper...) is something employers will always covet to some degree (even at the expense of life and limb).
Any arrangement between employers and employees that doesn't center win-win outcomes is an unsustainable race to somewhere we've already been and decided we didn't like.
Re: My little sister's use of ChatGPT for homework is heartbreaking
#214Earlier quoted context omitted.
My daughter is only 1 and a half years old now, but my concern is more that she'll be implicitly competing with classmates that are using tools like this, whether we allow her to use them or not.
I don't understand this sentiment, even though it is common among Americans. Why is education seen as a competition between students, even in the younger grades? I've even heard stories of parents of young children fighting with each other over their children's grades.
Re: My little sister's use of ChatGPT for homework is heartbreaking
#215It's worth noting people probably reacted to this like they did with calculators, and perhaps, encyclopedias. I see this use a bit differently: as a teacher that scales (and is probably more accurate that a human, hallucinations and other concerns notwithstanding). I see my kids using it in a similar manner as described in this post, but I also see their curiosity piqued and them asking all kinds of theoretical and c…
If an LLM can answer the HW questions so easily, then maybe it's an issue with the HW and not the LLM/student.
Re: My little sister's use of ChatGPT for homework is heartbreaking
#216Earlier quoted context omitted.
There’s a difference between not knowing multiplication and just refusing any logical thinking at all. We already see this a lot in adults today. Many are just too lazy to turn on their brain, because it’s easier to call, ask on Reddit or whatever, even if it takes ten times longer than just doing the thinking yourself. This is just the perfection of that. And it’s suuuuper scary, because it trains you to be a brain…
Every study done on the topic of “people judging the stupidity of other people” always proves this comment incorrect. With or without AI, we have always thought we are of wildly above average intelligence and that “all the other people are brain dead zombies.” This is just a classic human bias since we don’t ever experience what goes on inside anyones head but ours. Everything is going to be just fine.
Re: My little sister's use of ChatGPT for homework is heartbreaking
#217I know that having parents who cared about my education (and were in a position to actively participate in it) was a privilege and not a given, but where are the parents in this situation? Do we just accept that an 11 year-old watches squid game, has unrestricted access to chatgpt and does all their school work without any oversight at all? Clearly this kid is not receiving the guidance it needs. Or any guidance real…
What kind of guidance does 11 year old need for homework? Me and my siblings were doing all of it independently pretty much from the start, parents were only involved if there was some tough nut that we needed help with.
Re: My little sister's use of ChatGPT for homework is heartbreaking
#218Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it's a great idea that the delivery of the material is done by video, and then the engagement with it, the exercises etc., are done with a teacher. That flipping strikes me as sensible.
Knowing that the vast majority of parents will not check or enforce school work at home, either because they don't care or can't (2 jobs etc) ... You have to choose which one actually happens. That seems to me to be the lecture. Additionally teachers are very opposed to doing extra work (this seems to be a Gen-Z thing: even with doctors you see this, there was an article about doctors refusing to do emergency rooms s…
Re: My little sister's use of ChatGPT for homework is heartbreaking
#219When kids are at home, parents should be involved in the learning process. You don't have to be a helicopter and monitor everything, but you should take interest in the work your child is doing. If you check in at least once while they're doing homework it will be very easy to catch issues like this.
Re: My little sister's use of ChatGPT for homework is heartbreaking
#220There's some grim humor in the fact that the poster reflects on his sister's use of chatgpt, and just ends on that point. I have to wonder if he decided to talk to her or his parents about the situation. I didn't see anything in the post to suggest it, just a "this next generation is cooked." Who cooked them is the question? Children won't raise themselves generally.
My daughter is only 1 and a half years old now, but my concern is more that she'll be implicitly competing with classmates that are using tools like this, whether we allow her to use them or not.