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Re: 3blue1brown YouTube Bitcoin video taken down as copyright violation

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Post by p0w3n3d »

hamandcheese wrote: post #67
RobertDeNiro wrote: post #23

from https://x.com/ChainPatrol/status/1876300596182983151 " Hello! This was a false positive in our systems at @ChainPatrol . We are retracting the takedown request, and will conduct a full post-mortem to ensure this does not happen again. We have been combatting a huge volume of fake YouTube videos that are attempting to steal user funds. Unfortunately, in our mission to protect users from scams, false positives (ve…

This seems like a huge abuse of the copyright system to me. It sounds to me like ChainPatrol doesn't actually have any IP to protect, but they are instead deputizing YouTube's copyright system to fight what they deem to be crypto scams. Absolutely wild if true.

Big tech companies are not complaint with copyright, only with its interpretation made up by themselves.

Re: 3blue1brown YouTube Bitcoin video taken down as copyright violation

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Post by tzs »

HWR_14 wrote: post #155
TZubiri wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can definitely use your IP to take down scams. If someone is using your name or your company's name to scam people, it is in your interest to save your name and provide people assurance that they can do business with your name.

That's a use of a trademark claim, not a copyright claim. And a good example of why trademark protection is valuable.

Scammers often use more than just your name. They often take content from your site too to try to make theirs look like yours.

Re: 3blue1brown YouTube Bitcoin video taken down as copyright violation

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Post by cduzz »

lousken wrote: post #78

can we start permanently banning companies that submit false-positive takedown requests? 3 strikes for them should result in not being able to submit any strikes anymore and all their content being removed if the content creator can get their channel removed, same thing must apply to the opposite side as well

When I first saw this I was reminded of the Mend it Mark copyright takedown event where he fixed and documented a phono preamp and the maker of that preamp filed a copyright take down against the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPIrCaeVtvI

Re: 3blue1brown YouTube Bitcoin video taken down as copyright violation

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Post by btown »

One of the reasons that copyright processes are so biased towards traditional rightsholders and against individual creators is that the latter group is simultaneously captive to the platform and unorganized/decentralized; YouTube needs licenses and goodwill from, say, Universal, far more than it needs 3blue1brown individually.

And the incentives for rectifying this are skewed: video platforms simply need to address individual cases with influential creators just reactively enough so that collective action isn't incentivized; that's far cheaper, and far easier to not need to coordinate with traditional rightsholders, than addressing the problem systematically.

If we believe that the vision of being an independent content creator is important to humanity - and I think it's becoming vital as "a way to distinguish myself" that folks are able to dream about from an early age - then we need to seriously work to protect it. Not everybody will get their "big break" but we can at the very least start having conversations about protecting creators from an AI-driven DMCA bot arbitrarily destroying their career through automated channel-disabling rules.

Re: 3blue1brown YouTube Bitcoin video taken down as copyright violation

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Post by mensetmanusman »

The crypto YouTube scams are incredibly sophisticated. Bitcoin is the best currency for scammers bar none, so millions from nation states like North Korea will pour into this to decimate lowly pensioners scared for their future.

3b1b is basically a causality in this war of greed.

Re: 3blue1brown YouTube Bitcoin video taken down as copyright violation

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Post by tzs »

8note wrote: post #59
RobertDeNiro wrote: post #23

from https://x.com/ChainPatrol/status/1876300596182983151 " Hello! This was a false positive in our systems at @ChainPatrol . We are retracting the takedown request, and will conduct a full post-mortem to ensure this does not happen again. We have been combatting a huge volume of fake YouTube videos that are attempting to steal user funds. Unfortunately, in our mission to protect users from scams, false positives (ve…

i don't understand how this connects to copyright claims. who is the user whos funds is being stolen?

A common thing scammers do is copy material from other sites that the scammer's victims are familiar with and trust. The scammers put that material in their own sites to try to trick the victims into thinking that are on the site they trust.

Re: 3blue1brown YouTube Bitcoin video taken down as copyright violation

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Post by Hilift »

Analemma_ wrote: post #108
dowakin wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Haha, they see themselves as ‘good cops,’ deciding what content is acceptable and what isn’t. It’s not even about copyright—it’s about what they think is good for users and what isn’t. And in the process of playing ‘police’ they end up taking down one of the best videos explaining how Bitcoin works.

This is par for the course in crypto communities. There are multiple competing Bitcoin subreddits, mainly because each one decides which info to censor because they don't like a particular coin/fork/tech.

It took three people on Reddit to start a rumor that Anne Hathaway was a bad person. Probably due to they thought her as Catwoman was going to be like Ryan Reynolds in Green Lantern. And they were still seething over Katie Holmes.

Re: 3blue1brown YouTube Bitcoin video taken down as copyright violation

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Post by lousken »

hkon wrote: post #123
lousken wrote: post #78

can we start permanently banning companies that submit false-positive takedown requests? 3 strikes for them should result in not being able to submit any strikes anymore and all their content being removed if the content creator can get their channel removed, same thing must apply to the opposite side as well

You can just create a new company. There is an asymmetry there which your tit for tat approach does not take into consideration. And no, creating a new channel requires far more work.

I don't mean banning the company which does the takedown submission, I mean the company that actually owns the copyright. That would result in companies being a lot more vary in terms of whom to trust with such job.

Re: 3blue1brown YouTube Bitcoin video taken down as copyright violation

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Post by pests »

TZubiri wrote: post #135
hamandcheese wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This seems like a huge abuse of the copyright system to me. It sounds to me like ChainPatrol doesn't actually have any IP to protect, but they are instead deputizing YouTube's copyright system to fight what they deem to be crypto scams. Absolutely wild if true.

You can definitely use your IP to take down scams. If someone is using your name or your company's name to scam people, it is in your interest to save your name and provide people assurance that they can do business with your name.

The claim was they have no IP.
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