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> minorly-inconvenienced 120dB train horns at 2AM in the morning in a residential area is not a minor inconvenience.
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For liberals to give up power in both Canada and US so hurriedly, there must something really bad brewing that they don't want to be blamed for.
I hadn't heard that this was likely to happen. Any Canadians here able to weigh on whether this was expected or is a normal procedure for your elected officials?
Canadian here. It's certainly not normal. News broke yesterday that this was coming. The opposition kept tabling no confidence votes and trying to get an early election called... and Trudeau's approval rating is so low that it might even be the lowest of any Prime Minister in history (though I don't know so if someone does by all means fact check that). However, our upcoming election is this year. It certainly does n…
I think if the liberals can delay the election until October, their results won't be so bad, especially if Trump keeps saying dumb things down in America (as he is prone to do), making alignment with the conservatives less popular (they will still win, just not the huge landslide that they can take now).
For liberals to give up power in both Canada and US so hurriedly, there must something really bad brewing that they don't want to be blamed for.
Trudeau has been unpopular for years and hideously unpopular for the past couple of months, mostly as a result of the current state of things being bad (and as they've been in power for nearly 10 years, they already cop the blame for that), not hypothetical future bad things. No need to get conspiratorial.
It wouldn't be the first time in history where one party/group/individual decides to relinquish power anticipating some crisis:
- Sulla was a dictator who retired before the collapse of the Roman republic. - The British handed over power to India before the communal violence escalated. - Nixon resigned to avoid the spectacle of impeachment.
Someone in power may be able to better see some things inevitably coming and bail out sooner to avoid the worse.
You said Trudeau was unpopular for years and yet only now he's leaving.
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No they're not, at least not in Ottawa at 2AM. They might do a quick blip at an intersection but generally they run silent. There was a massive difference between the train horns and the sirens. The horns were continuous, sirens are very occasional and short.
If you live around a million other people, you're going to have to deal with loud noise in the middle of the night at some point. Scale this up or down depending on how many people you're living near.
For the entire time that I lived in Manhattan, loud noise at 2am was unavoidable. You get thick windows, leave them closed, buy curtains and run your AC.
I'm so sorry that you were inconvenienced.
Patio11 has some good coverage of Trudeau's handling of the trucker protest against the government's handling of COVID-19 [1]. Whatever you think of the truckers' position or protest tactics, any punishment for their actions ought to go through the laws and court system. Trudeau instead essentially told the banking system "You can't do business with those people, they're terrorists." Patio11's words of what happened…
The federal response was largely due to the abject failure of the city & provincial governments to enforce their laws. The city and province had plenty of tools to get rid of the protesters: noise bylaws, parking bylaws, et cetera. They failed completely, so the Federal government was forced to intervene. The federal government did not have nuanced tools to deal with the truckers so used the blunt hammers they did ha…
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There had already been one standoff between local residents and truckers, I remember there being chatter that the next weekend groups were going to coordinate in their neighborhoods and drive out the convoy on their own (using baseball bats, cast iron skillets, or golf clubs if need be). The situation had the potential to turn into an absolute blood bath.
In the US some psychopath straight up shot and killed a climate activist who was in the way of his car. It’s a miracle something similar didn’t happen there.
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The federal response was largely due to the abject failure of the city & provincial governments to enforce their laws. The city and province had plenty of tools to get rid of the protesters: noise bylaws, parking bylaws, et cetera. They failed completely, so the Federal government was forced to intervene. The federal government did not have nuanced tools to deal with the truckers so used the blunt hammers they did ha…
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> those that have not drunk the kool-aid it is an utter joke of a concept Problem is that they aren't the ones in power in the USA.
Right, but even if the US actually wants to annex Canada, Canada would have to allow that to happen. That's what makes it insane. Russia wanted to annex Ukraine, and it didn't go so well. So playing the tape to the end, what do people think Trump is actually proposing? A war? A "special operation"?
Who will help Canada? They'll be blockaded on day one by both land and sea. They won't have any food.
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While I agree with patio11's assessment here, if you were to poll the average Ottawan about the trucker protest, you'll largely get back a response of "#&$! those people", soley because they were minorly-inconvenienced by them. Canadian politics (not uniquely here) is plagued with petty squabbles. The really meaningful political and social issues don't get any airtime.
> minorly-inconvenienced 120dB train horns at 2AM in the morning in a residential area is not a minor inconvenience.