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My little sister's use of ChatGPT for homework is heartbreaking

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Re: My little sister's use of ChatGPT for homework is heartbreaking

#42
Are in-class tests still a thing?

If you use these tools to get the homework done, but there's little retention of knowledge or skill, how are you going to pass a test where the resource is not available to you? Homework is ostensibly about practicing certain skills (math) or learning/memorizing facts.

Re: My little sister's use of ChatGPT for homework is heartbreaking

#43
I find my self using LLMs for very simple things, to jog my memory instead of actually exercising it. Yesterday I asked Claude how to format a numeric string in Ruby. I could have figured it out in the REPL in a minute but instead got the answer from AI in 15 seconds.

This is the same kind of laziness as using it to multiply 60 * 3. If I take the slightly slower road of figuring out the string formatting next time I might go from a minute to 3 seconds.

It's like telling someone to always take the stairs for their health. It's pretty good advice, but it's sweaty and takes time so we mostly don't. Maybe we should lock kids out of elevators and escalators as well as LLMs. But what's good for the duckling is good for the duck.

Re: My little sister's use of ChatGPT for homework is heartbreaking

#44
As a senior college student who's seen ChatGPT take over much of higher education in real-time, I'm still curious (and unsure, really) how institutions will ever change their system of education if they struggle to address even smaller things than ChatGPT.

My view as a student, personally, has always been that people rampantly cheat, everyone looks like they're doing good on paper, the institution's happy. My assumption was that such "infrastructural" education systems are hard to change (hence why few try to in the first place) and, if they work well enough, no one's going to attempt to touch it, let alone change it to better serve students who seem to be doing what they're expected to.

Happy to hear some thoughts, from a student worried about his peers. :)

Re: My little sister's use of ChatGPT for homework is heartbreaking

#45
... and the OP did nothing about the situation except post it on the internet.

Had it been my little brother doing this I'd have whooped his ass, cut internet access, and ratted him out to my parents ;-)

I joke, but honestly the sister's situation is completely the fault of her shit upbringing, not ChatGPT.

Re: My little sister's use of ChatGPT for homework is heartbreaking

#47
post #12

There's some grim humor in the fact that the poster reflects on his sister's use of chatgpt, and just ends on that point. I have to wonder if he decided to talk to her or his parents about the situation. I didn't see anything in the post to suggest it, just a "this next generation is cooked." Who cooked them is the question? Children won't raise themselves generally.

My daughter is only 1 and a half years old now, but my concern is more that she'll be implicitly competing with classmates that are using tools like this, whether we allow her to use them or not.

I hope in-class exams (or even simple questions from the teacher) will define the big part of the grade in the future schools.

This will force ChatGPT-using classmates to either use it as learning _assist_ tool, to help student learn the material; or be 100% reliant on ChatGPT for homework, but fail every in-class assignment and then fail the whole class. Either outcome is fine with me.

Re: My little sister's use of ChatGPT for homework is heartbreaking

#48
The teachers' subreddit (/r/teachers) is full of anectodal but collectively terrifying stories about how smartphones and now AI are affecting young students, particularly in the areas of attention, initiative, and basic literacy. We're in the middle of a big, uncontrolled experiment on an entire generation.

Re: My little sister's use of ChatGPT for homework is heartbreaking

#49

Back in high school we used to just copy and paste stuff from a Microsoft encarta cdrom into word, print it out and hand it in. Somehow I managed to go on to have a successful career in software making vastly more money than my parents or those around me. The only real thing that would bug me is LLM’s are professional bullshitters. They are a super compressed store of knowledge that doesn’t know its own boundaries an…

I bet you were one of the ones that was smart enough to not copy/paste the whole article so it was easily recognized tho.

Re: My little sister's use of ChatGPT for homework is heartbreaking

#50
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Invert the class format: Homework should be done in class on pencil/paper or locked down Chromebooks, and lectures can be watched on video at home.

Repetition alone was hard enough, but if I was responsible for learning the material at my own pace on my own device as well? I'd still be in middle school.
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