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Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Post by busterarm »

csense wrote: post #34

Patio11 has some good coverage of Trudeau's handling of the trucker protest against the government's handling of COVID-19 [1]. Whatever you think of the truckers' position or protest tactics, any punishment for their actions ought to go through the laws and court system. Trudeau instead essentially told the banking system "You can't do business with those people, they're terrorists." Patio11's words of what happened…

While I agree with patio11's assessment here, if you were to poll the average Ottawan about the trucker protest, you'll largely get back a response of "#&$! those people", soley because they were minorly-inconvenienced by them.

Canadian politics (not uniquely here) is plagued with petty squabbles. The really meaningful political and social issues don't get any airtime.

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Post by mardifoufs »

beaned wrote: post #13
thesh4d0w wrote: post #2

> Trudeau, who is now answering questions from reporters, said his one regret of his premiership has been his failure to introduce electoral reform. Oh please, you had lots of time to address this and instead you've just handed us to the conservatives.

As someone with no knowledge of the topic, why was electrical reform needed? Wouldn't one assume that either party motivated to do it while in power would be doing it with the goal of positively affecting the outcome for their party in the future? It would seem weird for a candidate to reform how voting works knowing it could negatively affect their side, right?

It was one of his core promises back in 2015. He almost instantly broke it when he got elected, by saying it won't happen.

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Post by sdwr »

beaned wrote: post #13
thesh4d0w wrote: post #2

> Trudeau, who is now answering questions from reporters, said his one regret of his premiership has been his failure to introduce electoral reform. Oh please, you had lots of time to address this and instead you've just handed us to the conservatives.

As someone with no knowledge of the topic, why was electrical reform needed? Wouldn't one assume that either party motivated to do it while in power would be doing it with the goal of positively affecting the outcome for their party in the future? It would seem weird for a candidate to reform how voting works knowing it could negatively affect their side, right?

In a functional organization, personal interests are balanced against ideals, decorum, and the interests of the group.

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Post by nemo44x »

Is Canada better today then when he started as PM? I struggle to agree that it is. Housing is as bad as it has ever been and the immigration decisions seem to have been so careless that even people that would agree with immigration as a general principal are horrified by it by and large. The Canadian dollar has collapsed VS the USD.

I guess it always ends bad if you stick around long enough.

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Post by jyscao »

busterarm wrote: post #8
jyscao wrote: post #3

Should've done it weeks ago. Utterly shameless.

Well, I mean he has a history of just burying his head in the sand with every controversy and eventually they all went away after a short time. The strategy clearly worked for him until it didn't.

Good point.

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Post by thijson »

thesh4d0w wrote: post #2

> Trudeau, who is now answering questions from reporters, said his one regret of his premiership has been his failure to introduce electoral reform. Oh please, you had lots of time to address this and instead you've just handed us to the conservatives.

I remember when he first ran that was one of his planks.

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Post by hmmm-i-wonder »

thesh4d0w wrote: post #2

> Trudeau, who is now answering questions from reporters, said his one regret of his premiership has been his failure to introduce electoral reform. Oh please, you had lots of time to address this and instead you've just handed us to the conservatives.

Was it failure to introduce ranked voting, or failure to introduce electoral reform?

There was multiple systems being suggested. NDP preferred MMP. Personally I wanted STV, but the Liberal party wanted alternate vote, the system that would benefit them the most.

Once they realized public and other party support was for systems other than Alternative Vote they backed out.

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Post by redeux »

mlekoszek wrote: post #23
newfocogi wrote: post #9

I hadn't heard that this was likely to happen. Any Canadians here able to weigh on whether this was expected or is a normal procedure for your elected officials?

Generally, governments in Canada are voted out in roughly 9-year intervals. Trudeau took office in 2015, so nothing unusual there. Moreover, Trudeau is exiting with approval ratings just a percent below his predecessor, Stephen Harper (22% vs. 23%, respectively). So, in a wider sense, this is not so unusual. But we're facing a trade war with the States and less-than-joking threats of annexation, so it's a bad moment…

I haven’t been following the news recently. What is the talk of annexation? First I’ve heard of it.

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Post by dralley »

acc_297 wrote: post #28
newfocogi wrote: post #9

I hadn't heard that this was likely to happen. Any Canadians here able to weigh on whether this was expected or is a normal procedure for your elected officials?

Yes and yes. Canadian prime ministers often expire after 10 years for one reason or another There will likely be an election in 3ish months with a new liberal leader in place of Trudeau

"Canadian federal governments tend to last 6 months, or 10 years. After 10 years the roof falls in"
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