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Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

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Re: Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

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Post by foliovision »

erulabs wrote: post #82
looneysquash wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tossing a coin to your Witcher is not sufficient to fix our broken capitalism system.

I think the system that orients us away from our passions and towards the mundane is a good thing actually. It hurts the soul but it nourishes the body. However we should all become patrons of the arts, so that we can also nourish the soul. Ain’t nothing so broken that love can’t fix it.

Based on the average diet in North America (fast food, oversized portions, GMO vegetables which look good but are nutrition free, hormone overloaded beef, chlorinated chicken, this is the short list), I would argue the system (North American style capitalism does not nourish the body.

I'd also apply the same thought to North American arts and sports. Singing about hoes and bling, while clutching your testicles or ring fighting hardly feed the soul.

The Olympians should get proper state funding. They do inspire.

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Post by nradov »

psb217 wrote: post #51
hypeatei wrote: post #35

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> in desperation when their insurance tells them to take a hike. Socialized healthcare is good because it doesn't mean you're tied to a job or worried about in/out network hospitals. But, care would still be rationed as it doesn't magically provide us with infinite resources. I just like to point this out since there are very good arguments for socialized care in the US, but this isn't one of them.

It's not unreasonable to argue for socialized healthcare based on treatment denials in private healthcare, since there are impactful differences in the incentives driving denials and rationing in private vs socialized healthcare. I agree that the argument should be more nuanced than just "denials happen". The incentive for private health insurers is to raise prices and increase denial rate until people are unwilling…

There is no such incentive for private health insurers. You have completely misunderstood how the business works.

https://www.cms.gov/marketplace/private-health-insurance/med...

Re: Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

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Post by tuna74 »

RonaldDump wrote: post #61
dustyventure wrote: post #25

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I think the Olympics in particular are mostly supposed to be a less violent outlet for nationalism, but I think we learned from the Anger Management craze that safe outlets lead to a normalization and more of the original problem.

It's an absolutely awful outlet for "nationalism" in a post-national diversified world. Table tennis, for example, is basically a bunch of Chinese people battling it out for gold for their host country. Am I supposed to root for the Chinese-Australians as if they're any more representative of me than the Chinese-Canadians?

The second best male player in the world* is as an ethnic Swede.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truls_M%C3%B6reg%C3%A5rdh

Re: Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

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Post by DontchaKnowit »

jalapenos wrote: post #112
braza wrote: post #106

Being a former athlete (100/200 meters), the issue is that the top-tier sports (e.g., football, volleyball, basketball, etc.) capture the majority of money/value, and if you are from javelin throwing, fencing, or racewalking, unless you have a great sponsor, it will definitely require personal sacrifices to make it to the games. In Brazil a very long time ago, there was a gigantic tug of war between the top-tier spor…

Fencing as done now looks legit stupid, so does racewalking. Javelin, while slightly more cool, is you throwing a stick. Mildly interesting for a few seconds. Football is a top tier sport because it's entertaining. People will pay to see it. Hence there's money to be earned. If someone wants to spend their time seeing how far they can throw a stick, cool, but they shouldn't be surprised they're waking up to an empty…

Yo idk what youre talki g about with fencing. Its entertaining as hell

Re: Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

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Post by nradov »

foliovision wrote: post #148
belval wrote: post #9

Sensationalistic headline aside, this is a very thorny issue. On one hand you want to provide livable wages to your athletes, but Canada just registered a deficit of 62 billions. Cuts are coming and more money to Olympians will be put up against funding for healthcare, education, etc... At some point you have to make hard decisions.

Lots of money for bombs for Gaza, bombs for Ukraine, bombs all over the world. Very little motivation it seems to settle foreign policy issues diplomatically. Which would save trillions of dollars (for us) and millions of lives (for them). Lots of money for war. Talk about hard decisions and belt-tightening is ludicrous until North America changes it's all-war, all-the-time politics.

Apparently you haven't been paying attention. The USA and other countries have made repeated diplomatic attempts to get Russia to end the invasion of Ukraine but they refuse to negotiate in good faith. So bombs are the only option. They are also banned from the Olympics.

Re: Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

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Post by DontchaKnowit »

AngryData wrote: post #79
a2tech wrote: post #14

This is the reality of building your life around sport—-there’s basically no money in it unless you’re on the extreme edge. I wish people would stop dumping their entire life’s energy into chasing it—-do something more useful like stamping parts out in a factory. Olympic athletes are stunningly focused achievers—I’d love to see that energy and drive applied to something that mattered.

Define "something that mattered", because over half the stuff posted on hackernews is a complete waste of time and effort if your only real metric is profitability. The vast majority of "hacking" in general is of negative financial value.

Yeah and half the stuff that is of financial value is complete cancer on our society. Social media, advertising systems, etc etc.

Re: Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

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Post by DontchaKnowit »

nothrowaways wrote: post #129
nothrowaways wrote: post #128

Onlyfans is online prostitution. I wonder how it is legal in countries that criminalize offline prostitution.

Also, Onlyfans is a bad influence on the young generation. Downvote me as much as you would like, but I can argue all night kn this.

Who the hell is arguing against that? Lmao thats obvious on its face

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Post by nradov »

Y-bar wrote: post #65
themaninthedark wrote: post #42

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I would like to provide liveable wages for both artists and athletes. Who gets to choose which artists and athletes are funded? When do we start funding them? In high-school, before? After they graduate? There are many people who identify as athletes at that age, football players, cheerleaders. I have a 6yo son who is really good at doing various crafts and he really enjoys it, does he count as an artist? How do we d…

> Who gets to choose which artists and athletes are funded? Preferably via UBI which would prevent cheating and inconsistencies and minimise the bureaucracy around it. > When do we start funding them? Smarter people than me have already answered this, but generally at 18 years of age or after graduation seems to be a common answer. > I have a 6yo son who is really good at doing various crafts and he really enjoys it,…

No actual smart people think that UBI is an effective answer to anything. The math simply doesn't work. Those claiming that UBI is the answer are either innumerate or are making ideological claims at odds with objective reality.

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Post by RugnirViking »

llamaimperative wrote: post #118
syndicatedjelly wrote: post #69

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This is one of the most dystopian and depressing things I've ever read. Quit your dreams and be productive for the Economy, peasant.

Is it equally dystopian if you consider that “be productive for the economy” is shorthand for and quite closely related to “do something of value for your fellow community members?” (Yes obviously there are extreme and very visible edge cases, but 99.999% of things normal people get paid to do is something valuable for their neighbor)

> 99.999% of things normal people get paid to do is something valuable for their neighbor

My intuition is that you will find a small and decreasing number of people agree with or believe this

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Post by MichaelZuo »

JambalayaJimbo wrote: post #150
unsupp0rted wrote: post #143

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Yes, I prefer it this way. Children can be the best they can be at something, and have that thing generate no value to anybody else around them. No need to subsidize it.

People very much do care about the olympics… once every 4 years. There is clearly value generated by throwing a disk around, and it’s not being distributed well.

They do care for a few seconds on average per viewer… so that small amount of value is making its way to the athlete.

It’s just a fraction of a cent per viewer. So even with hundreds of millions of viewers it’s still barely a hundred thousand dollars to be split up between all disk throwers.

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