I like the idea of branching discussions. I imagine this would be great for text messengers. If there was a workable platform for building messengers (hello, Matrix?), I’d likely already have prototyped something up.
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#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
You mean other than the reduced risk of compromise from the latest js engine exploit? Or that it also prevents some xss injection? Or that often many sites will still function with most external scripts disabled, i.e. it disables spyware that many sites don't need to install, but still do? Besides all of that, it makes the web more usable in most cases. Not more functional, more usable. I don't want your site to hija…
How about loading the table row you just added instead of reloading the entire page, table and all? I'm against bloated apps and ads, in favor of using forms and HTMLs strengths, but JS is the tool and not the cause of poor design. A web developer that doesn't use it is offloading their identity based allergy onto the users bandwidth. Plus you can make modals without JS
> How about loading the table row you just added instead of reloading the entire page, table and all?
Show me a single site that uses js in this way. But, and here's the trick... it has to *actually* use less network bandwidth. My issue isn't with js as a web development tool. My issue is with js when it's the wrong tool.
> A web developer that doesn't use it is offloading their identity based allergy onto the users bandwidth.
That's an interesting hypothetical, but I'd be willing to be more user bandwidth is consumed by needless JS scripts, than by all the engineers that you'd call "allergic" to js.
> Plus you can make modals without JS
Show me one that triggers when I scroll too far, or move my mouse outside of the window that doesn't use js?
All of your claims lack evidence... there's plenty of things that sound great in theory, but have been toxic and user hostile every time someone has actually tried to apply said theory.
Re: Show HN: Discuo – Anonymous discussions with infinite branching and 24h lifespan
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tbh the 24 hour horizon also means that you can do without a persistent db and store everything in memory (as managed db are typically the most complex / expensive part of the stack)
Only if you’re ok with an empty page after server restart.
If it'a controlled restart, you can dump your memory onto a file when shutting down, then reload the dump when you restart. If it's a crash, yes, you will lose everything. Or you can do Append Only File persistence like Redis, in which case you won't lose anything in each case.
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
Until a bunch of people try to find a thread about insert newsworthy event here , only to find there isn't one, create their own, and suddenly a day later there's hundreds of dupes.
Or even worse! Everyone knows how the platform works and assumes someone already made a thread about the newsworthy event, just to find out, 24 hours later, no one had made one!
For me that would be desired outcome. Recent events are not worth coverage. Recency is not value.
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#65I would love to participate in a small community like this. Problem is that they usually fail to gain inertia and become abandoned quickly. They also become filled with spam unless actively moderated.
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or even worse! Everyone knows how the platform works and assumes someone already made a thread about the newsworthy event, just to find out, 24 hours later, no one had made one!
For me that would be desired outcome. Recent events are not worth coverage. Recency is not value.
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
Only if you’re ok with an empty page after server restart.
If it'a controlled restart, you can dump your memory onto a file when shutting down, then reload the dump when you restart. If it's a crash, yes, you will lose everything. Or you can do Append Only File persistence like Redis, in which case you won't lose anything in each case.
> dump your memory onto a file when shutting down, then reload the dump when you restart
To me this sounds like building your own db but worse.
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, I do. The day uMatrix finally stops functioning will be an awful day. Excluding cute PoC sites, and demos; sites that function without javascript are objectively superior every way to sites that can't function without js. Though I admit that's correlative more than causative. Also, the point isn't to be a regular human being, it's to be a hacker, or engineer, or, [other]. Why be boring (regular) when you can be…
Interesting, and completely agree with both your remarks, but how does it relate to disabling JavaScript? What are you getting out of it, other than making the web less usable for yourself?
I also browse with disabled JS by default, enabling it on selected sites for selected JS sources. It has several advantages:
1) Web is much faster.
2) Often JS makes continuous CPU load, raising speed of CPU fan to noisy levels.
3) Sometimes JS is used for animations, i hate animations on web pages.
4) Sometimes JS is used to auto-play videos (although recent Firefox with proper settings ca block that even with JS enabled in most cases), i hate auto-play videos. That was my primary reason to switch to disabled JS in the past.
5) Often cookie and other pop-ups are implemented with JS and do not show when JS is disabled (while the web still works).
6) Most ads disappear even without ad-blocker.
Re: Show HN: Discuo – Anonymous discussions with infinite branching and 24h lifespan
#69If your unique attribute is the 24hr auto delete, and you drop that because some HN people don't like it, you've removed your unique attribute. Probably not the right call.
Not at all, I'm planning to make it optional and I'm listening to people. Not just from here. I launched the project 3-4 days ago and I've had quite a few private messages [with arguments] which have led me to think that it's pretty fair.
Sure. I mean, I often hate the unique attributes people come up with, and I wouldn't use their product because of it. I certainly also hate yours ;P. But... would I use something that has no unique attributes? Probably also not! And, honestly, it is maybe better to first decide if I am even in your target market or not... (and in this case: I am not; my opinion is so different from your instinct that anyone similar to me simply do not matter for your design).
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#70The title of this post should be changed to reflect the fact that the one interesting thing about it is no more