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Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

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Re: Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

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Is it a hobby because they like doing it?

What is the economic output? Entertainment as far as I can tell. For a few days every four years. That's not a good return on the time invested. If it's a hobby then there's no expected return, so it feels closer to that. I don't begrudge them, and would be in favour of a sensible fixed amount of federal funding, but it ain't a job.

> What is the economic output?

The tv rights and advertising sell for billions. In person ticket sales in the 100's of millions.

The economic output is the same as all the other sports, theatres, movies, television, museums, landmarks and royal families.

Re: Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

#102

Opinion: I stopped thinking the olympics was cool when I saw a 14 year old win gold in diving. Now I think it's a business exploiting people for money. Like any other business, if they don't like it they can stop doing it. Sports has a bad ROI on average afaik.

I stopped thinking it was cool when athletes were prohibited from publishing their diaries because it violated some "exclusive media rights" deal. that was pretty much the last time I paid any real attention to it.

Re: Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

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post #71

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It seems like Americans have a knack for coming up with the most convoluted ways of accessing healthcare that are still expensive and inconvenient. Your idea still require paying out of pocket, requires taking unpaid time off work, flights, relying on the healthcare system of a foreign country and more. That is the worst possible "healthcare" situation I can imagine. Dozens of countries have shown you pay a lot less…

> Americans have a knack for coming up with the most convoluted ways of accessing healthcare Medical tourism is alive and well even within Europe [1]. And an entire genre of concierge medicine in America caters to rich Europeans (alongside rich Middle Easterners and Asians). [1] https://www.magazine.medicaltourism.com/article/visegrad-cou...

> And an entire genre of concierge medicine in America caters to rich Europeans (alongside rich Middle Easterners and Asians).

Yes, the systems in America favor the rich.

Re: Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

#104

20yr ago they were all stripping for all of the same reasons but that was easier to keep on the down low because some journalist couldn't see and contact a dozen of them from their desk and many employers didn't even know who these people were. It really is a no brainer when you consider the investment they have to make in their bodies.

I would assume that not everyone with a "great body" would want to do stripping and I don't think it is a "no brainer" at all.

Problem with many sports is that they just don't earn enough money, which mostly is in advertising, and that doing it professionally is rather costly.

Re: Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

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This is the reality of building your life around sport—-there’s basically no money in it unless you’re on the extreme edge. I wish people would stop dumping their entire life’s energy into chasing it—-do something more useful like stamping parts out in a factory. Olympic athletes are stunningly focused achievers—I’d love to see that energy and drive applied to something that mattered.

Define "something that mattered", because over half the stuff posted on hackernews is a complete waste of time and effort if your only real metric is profitability. The vast majority of "hacking" in general is of negative financial value.

Absolutely savage

Re: Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

#106
Being a former athlete (100/200 meters), the issue is that the top-tier sports (e.g., football, volleyball, basketball, etc.) capture the majority of money/value, and if you are from javelin throwing, fencing, or racewalking, unless you have a great sponsor, it will definitely require personal sacrifices to make it to the games.

In Brazil a very long time ago, there was a gigantic tug of war between the top-tier sports (especially volleyball and football) and the low-tier sports, and the issue is that from the prize pool, most went to the major sports. The partial solution for it was to incentivize the corporations to do the sponsorships, and the ones that made it got some tax benefits (sometimes in a 1:2).

Re: Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

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post #76
post #14

This is the reality of building your life around sport—-there’s basically no money in it unless you’re on the extreme edge. I wish people would stop dumping their entire life’s energy into chasing it—-do something more useful like stamping parts out in a factory. Olympic athletes are stunningly focused achievers—I’d love to see that energy and drive applied to something that mattered.

>>>> there’s basically no money in it Who cares there's no money in it? Lots of things that have been corrupted with money are also hardly worth pursuing.

I know a poster who needs a few weeks working in a sulfur mine for a dollar a day to pull his head down to earth

Re: Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

#108
post #93

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First of all, funding arts/sports != livable wages for the artists/atheletes. There's an overlap but wage is just at the tip of the iceberg of funding. Provide livable wages to athletes and artists who represent your country (i.e., Olympians and national performers/artists). Fund development programs from as early as possible; this means grassroots efforts like summer camps, higher-level contests/tournaments, providi…

> national performers/artists Who is in this group?

So you hold a competition to see who is the best...

Re: Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

#109
post #65

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I would like to provide liveable wages for both artists and athletes. Who gets to choose which artists and athletes are funded? When do we start funding them? In high-school, before? After they graduate? There are many people who identify as athletes at that age, football players, cheerleaders. I have a 6yo son who is really good at doing various crafts and he really enjoys it, does he count as an artist? How do we d…

> Who gets to choose which artists and athletes are funded? Preferably via UBI which would prevent cheating and inconsistencies and minimise the bureaucracy around it. > When do we start funding them? Smarter people than me have already answered this, but generally at 18 years of age or after graduation seems to be a common answer. > I have a 6yo son who is really good at doing various crafts and he really enjoys it,…

And how is such a UBI funded, pray tell? Will you agree to a 90% tax rate for your regular job, so that UBI could be had?

Re: Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

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post #104

20yr ago they were all stripping for all of the same reasons but that was easier to keep on the down low because some journalist couldn't see and contact a dozen of them from their desk and many employers didn't even know who these people were. It really is a no brainer when you consider the investment they have to make in their bodies.

I would assume that not everyone with a "great body" would want to do stripping and I don't think it is a "no brainer" at all. Problem with many sports is that they just don't earn enough money, which mostly is in advertising, and that doing it professionally is rather costly.

100% I'd strip. Putting that much toil in I'd want maximum compensation
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