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Re: Ads chew through half of mobile data

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Post by Tarball10 »

agilob wrote: post #148
Tarball10 wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That sets a terrible precedent. You do not want ISPs picking and choosing what content to deliver, or forcing content providers to pay extra to deliver content to their customers.

precedent? This is already a common practice. Since early 2010s ISPs were doing it in USA [1] and trying to lower net neutrality standards in Europe to do it [2]. That's how the whole net neutrality debate started in US https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajit_Pai#Net_neutrality_in_the... [1] https://www.nexttv.com/news/netflix-ceo-some-big-isps-extrac... [2] https://epicenter.works/en/content/data-toll-deutsche-teleko...

OP was suggesting an outright block of traffic from ad providers. I don't believe any US ISPs have gone to that extreme, at least not yet. They allowed peering points to become congested which affected Netflix traffic, but weren't blocking it.

Re: Ads chew through half of mobile data

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Post by ifdefdebug »

maxwellg wrote: post #189

I finally took the time this weekend to get the family switched over to using NextDNS. I use uBlock Origin on my laptop but it's nice to have something for mobile too. I've been getting heated when my partner hands me her phone to show me a recipe and it's completely covered in ads.

> but it's nice to have something for mobile too

what's wrong with uBlock Origin on mobile? (available in Firefox)

Re: Ads chew through half of mobile data

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Post by mahirsaid »

withinboredom wrote: post #194
lolinder wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Virtually all news sites, regardless what side you agree with, have ads. Virtually all news sites, regardless of what side you agree with, are composed mostly of garbage designed to draw your attention, not inform you about things that really matter. They may provide some value in addition to that, but the advertising model ensures that they must hack your attention as their primary goal. > Basically all entertainm…

Reminds me of the days when ads were 5 or so minutes long, not just to convince you to buy it, but inform you why you should buy it. It wasn’t a dopamine laden 30s that tells you nothing about the product.

Fast forward to now where essentially every YT ad is some guy convincing you his trading and market strategy is better than anyone else’s.

Re: Ads chew through half of mobile data

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Post by mahirsaid »

sethops1 wrote: post #195
rlpb wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The internet as you know it is the value you get out of ads. I disagree. The value I get from the Internet is almost entirely from non-ad-driven sources. The ad-driven stuff is very low value to me.

Ironic you're posting this on Hacker News, which is fundamentally an ad for YCombinator.

Are you not benefiting from this site. I come here to read things and shelter with like minded peoples. I don’t see ads.

Re: Ads chew through half of mobile data

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Post by mahirsaid »

Tarball10 wrote: post #138
imoreno wrote: post #117

Maybe the ISP should start charging the ad network instead of the user for ad traffic. Then they can start blocking the ads of people who don't pay. The user, who pays for the service, is getting no value out of the ads and the advertiser is freeloading the ISP's technical infrastructure and userbase.

That sets a terrible precedent. You do not want ISPs picking and choosing what content to deliver, or forcing content providers to pay extra to deliver content to their customers.

It will result in a more poor experience online. You want the people providing the service act on their own behalf. Not a more controlling entity to do so. I agree

Re: Ads chew through half of mobile data

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Post by ornornor »

ifdefdebug wrote: post #205
maxwellg wrote: post #189

I finally took the time this weekend to get the family switched over to using NextDNS. I use uBlock Origin on my laptop but it's nice to have something for mobile too. I've been getting heated when my partner hands me her phone to show me a recipe and it's completely covered in ads.

> but it's nice to have something for mobile too what's wrong with uBlock Origin on mobile? (available in Firefox)

iOS and ad-blocking in apps that aren’t Firefox on android
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