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A lot of web pages only work for me on my iPhone if I use reader mode. Otherwise, the page keeps resetting over and over again. Firefox, but I assume Safari is probably the same, since Apple mandates they all be based on WebKit.
Unless you’re a EU citizen
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I’m due for a new phone and I’m strongly considering going to a dumb phone with a tablet around the house for browsing. I can carry a Kindle or something to kill time waiting for a train.
Question for the thread*: are we at a point where we build apps that chew through ad/user data, but put ourselves in a position to not have our data chewed on? *Mostly asking because I have come across this sentiment before, not because I think op(s) are engaged in this
Is the question “how many of you Adblock users also work in advertising tech?”
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People's revealed preferences are very clear, however much they deny it.
“People” are actually more than one entity and can have different opinions about things.
A lot of web pages only work for me on my iPhone if I use reader mode. Otherwise, the page keeps resetting over and over again. Firefox, but I assume Safari is probably the same, since Apple mandates they all be based on WebKit.
>since Apple mandates they all be based on WebKit. Unless you’re a EU citizen
Fantastic example of a negative externality. Question: if the data costs were internalised, would an advertising-based revenue model be sustainable?
Advertising doesn't inherently imply wastefulness or even being spyware or a malware & scam vector. If all the negative externalities were properly priced in, a lot of bottom-feeding crap at all layers of the stack will die off, but advertising itself will remain and would actually become better as a result for all parties involved.
ads aren't chewing though my mobile data. I generally don't go to any sites with ads. The few times I open a link and it's covered in ads I close the link.
You might not be seeing visible ads but you're going to plenty of sites that are using tons of tracking pixels and making a lot of requests with and about various data you are providing. That might not be as data intensive as auto playing a video ad but it certainly makes a big impact overall.
Overtly consuming rich media from Youtube, Music, and Twitter dwarfs the data consumption of Safari.
Even your example of a tracking pixel is only going to be a handful of bytes.
(Video portals aside) The text you want to read: a few kilobytes. The (oeconomical, an economical) cost of the ads surrounding it: several dozen to a hundred megabytes. You cannot convince me that this _isn't_ unsustainable quackery that got out of hands really, really bad.
"oeconomical" is just an extremely archaic spelling of "economical", since the root word from Greek is "oikos", which Latinizes as "oecus".
Why did you mention it? Do you see it as a separate word?
I love that the mobile version of the brave browser tells you how much data it saved you and how much time too.
It's immoral that you cannot turn off videos in a browser and/or that this isn't the default option on phones.
Although it is an arms race and obnoxious web pages can have javascript/webassembly video players that render into a canvas, etc., I still blame Apple for not sorting this out, and even backtracking on click/tap-to-play.
IIRC, at some point Apple did roll out default click/tap-to-play on iPhones, and there was a huge outcry from web developers (probably including Google/youtube) that it broke their sites. I expect the real complaint was that it interfered with pushing unwanted video advertisements.