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Re: Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

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Post by vasco »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #26
ceejayoz wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Criticizing a system built mostly on government handouts (by definition a socialist or communist structure) as being a late-stage capitalism problem shows you’ve got no clue what these terms actually mean. That's just the capitalists outright purchasing the legislators, so Walmart can employ people at minimum wage and let the taxpayers foot the bill for their healthcare and food stamps.

In that case, we’re not in a capitalist system at all, but a capitalist-socialist hybrid. Arguably, we’ve been in the hybrid since the New Deal, and it seems to have inherited the same socialism issues China is also grappling with.

Social democracy is the term that is usually used.

Re: Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

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Post by rererereferred »

TriangleEdge wrote: post #10

Opinion: I stopped thinking the olympics was cool when I saw a 14 year old win gold in diving. Now I think it's a business exploiting people for money. Like any other business, if they don't like it they can stop doing it. Sports has a bad ROI on average afaik.

Then you see the Australian breakdancer and you see they are all in it for the fun.

Re: Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

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Post by plagiarist »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #13
EGreg wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Government assistance is neither socialism nor communism. You do not understand what those terms mean.

Additionally, most of the government handouts we see are going to large corporations or the military.

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Post by hypeatei »

grecy wrote: post #8
PartiallyTyped wrote: post #2

Reminds me how GoFundMe is effectively a healthcare insurance that's based on donations. https://time.com/5516037/gofundme-medical-bills-one-third-ce...

One third of all donations on GoFundMe are for medical expenses. [1] the very vast majority of that must be Americans. I’m staggered how many Americans are steadfastly against socialized healthcare for all, but immediately turn to GoFundMe in desperation when their insurance tells them to take a hike. I can’t help thinking “just do that for everyone” [1] https://time.com/5516037/gofundme-medical-bills-one-third-ce...

> in desperation when their insurance tells them to take a hike.

Socialized healthcare is good because it doesn't mean you're tied to a job or worried about in/out network hospitals. But, care would still be rationed as it doesn't magically provide us with infinite resources.

I just like to point this out since there are very good arguments for socialized care in the US, but this isn't one of them.

Re: Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

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Post by gruez »

floatrock wrote: post #29
a2tech wrote: post #14

This is the reality of building your life around sport—-there’s basically no money in it unless you’re on the extreme edge. I wish people would stop dumping their entire life’s energy into chasing it—-do something more useful like stamping parts out in a factory. Olympic athletes are stunningly focused achievers—I’d love to see that energy and drive applied to something that mattered.

Is this meant to be sarcasm? If we're comparing only stamping parts in a factory vs. pushing the human body to its limits, you probably ain't gonna make money in either. But one of them is going to be a far more satisfying way to live for the soul. We can talk about other things that matter, but there's probably less of that out there than you might think.

>If we're comparing only stamping parts in a factory vs. pushing the human body to its limits, you probably ain't gonna make money in either. But one of them is going to be a far more satisfying way to live for the soul.

You can't eat "more satisfying way to live for the soul", and if you can't convince people to sponsor your endeavors, then you'll have to get a job that produce goods/services people are willing to pay for, like most other people.

Re: Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

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Post by manishader »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #13
EGreg wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Late stage capitalism is just economics and philosophy for unlearned people who haven't read much or had much education in economics or philosophy.

Imagine believing in historicism in 2024. It is even dumber than believing in witchcraft or horoscopes.

Re: Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

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Post by xhkkffbf »

rererereferred wrote: post #33
TriangleEdge wrote: post #10

Opinion: I stopped thinking the olympics was cool when I saw a 14 year old win gold in diving. Now I think it's a business exploiting people for money. Like any other business, if they don't like it they can stop doing it. Sports has a bad ROI on average afaik.

Then you see the Australian breakdancer and you see they are all in it for the fun.

With her, I got the impression that it was some political protest thing, although I'm not sure I see the connection.

Re: Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

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Post by gruez »

ceejayoz wrote: post #23
gjsman-1000 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> Criticizing a system built mostly on government handouts (by definition a socialist or communist structure) as being a late-stage capitalism problem shows you’ve got no clue what these terms actually mean. That's just the capitalists outright purchasing the legislators, so Walmart can employ people at minimum wage and let the taxpayers foot the bill for their healthcare and food stamps.

>so Walmart can employ people at minimum wage and let the taxpayers foot the bill for their healthcare and food stamps.

Do those people magically start needing food and healthcare once they're employed by walmart? Why is it suddenly walmarts problem the moment they become a walmart employee? Would anyone stakeholder in this situation (the employees, society, walmart) be better off if the employee was no longer employed?

Re: Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

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Post by PapstJL4U »

a2tech wrote: post #14

This is the reality of building your life around sport—-there’s basically no money in it unless you’re on the extreme edge. I wish people would stop dumping their entire life’s energy into chasing it—-do something more useful like stamping parts out in a factory. Olympic athletes are stunningly focused achievers—I’d love to see that energy and drive applied to something that mattered.

If you don't put in the energy and drive, someone else will and someone else will be good enough to make money of their drive and energy.

It's although very hard to just find something else, that gives you the same satisfaction as your favourite "past-time" - the only job that is as good as doing sport, is sport as a job.

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