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Re: Show HN: I completed shipping my desktop app

#272

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The problem with distributing standalone installers on Windows is that all non-popular apps are immediately regarded as malware by Windows Defender unless you go through the horrendous process of signing your app, which requires obtaining a certificate (which also requires forming a company that is not an LLC) and waiting more than a month while navigating multiple rounds of bureaucracy. I’ve done it for my app, and…

> signing your app, which requires obtaining a certificate (which also requires forming a company that is not an LLC) and waiting more than a month while navigating multiple rounds of bureaucracy. This is not true, not as phrased. A. You can get a cert issued in your personal name. Not an EV one, but still. B. You are likely to already have a company if you are selling online. C. It doesn't take "a month" even for an…

Who was your EV cert vendor?

I've recently used two different vendors, replied within minutes to each of their queries in hopes of expediting the process, but each time it took the better part of 2 months before I was in possession of a USB signing key.

This is for a Delaware C-corp, so it was about as vanilla as it could be for their side.

Re: Show HN: I completed shipping my desktop app

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post #236

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The fact of the matter is that there are many motivations for creating software. If someone profits off of my work, that I released into the world with licensing terms that allows them to do so, there’s no obligation that I be paid for it. I could have, myself, recognized the potential and done the work to make a marketable tool, but my motivation was different. You can fault the FOSS community for promoting default…

You a seem to be misunderstanding if not misrepresenting my point. I applaud the FOSS community for these licenses. I use them myself. And I don't expect any payment. And it's fine that if anybody invests a lot of expertise and time to build a complicated product to commercialize it. Even better if they contribute back in one way or another. This is about a green kid coming along and quickly churning out lots of half…

> (And again, I generally applaud the enthusiasm. But those things would better be suited as portfolio-building personal OSS projects on github rather than trying to squeeze the dollars.)

Why? They are under no obligation to do so, and then they are working for free. (A common trope related to FOSS, often argued on this very website)

> There is a difference between legitimate business interests after large investments, and freeloaders.

What large investment are you talking about? The thousands of hours of free labor that went ffmpeg? Yeah. See also all of the open source software that went into the operating system and utilities they built everything on. That doesn’t stop people from selling proprietary software, so why is this any different?

This is free market capitalism. If they can find people to pay $29 for a copy of this wrapper, more power to them. That also happens to be a much more powerful resume bullet point.

Re: Show HN: I completed shipping my desktop app

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post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact of the matter is that there are many motivations for creating software. If someone profits off of my work, that I released into the world with licensing terms that allows them to do so, there’s no obligation that I be paid for it. I could have, myself, recognized the potential and done the work to make a marketable tool, but my motivation was different. You can fault the FOSS community for promoting default…

You a seem to be misunderstanding if not misrepresenting my point. I applaud the FOSS community for these licenses. I use them myself. And I don't expect any payment. And it's fine that if anybody invests a lot of expertise and time to build a complicated product to commercialize it. Even better if they contribute back in one way or another. This is about a green kid coming along and quickly churning out lots of half…

> But we as a community can give push back in that that's not how things will work in the long run. I encourage you to check out his personal home page, you'll see what I mean.

What exactly does this mean?

Re: Show HN: I completed shipping my desktop app

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I actually use MPV and bash scripts to do all the listed features and more. I considered making a similar GUI but after carefully reviewing the scripts I decided that there is simply no way to match the degrees of freedom that scripting provides.

Most people are unlikely to view scripting as the most powerful user interface available. So there may be a market for a simplified GUI such as this.

Re: Show HN: I completed shipping my desktop app

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post #127

While you are not too far into selling - a word of advice. Switch to offering a year of free updates and charge a small fee after that. Trust me. You will coverge to this scheme sooner or later, so do it now. - Standalone Windows installer is a must. Windows Store is still a deserted wasteland and is not a default choice for the vast majority of Windows users. You are losing a ton of users over this. - ffmpeg and oth…

Can you elaborate on the ethical reasons? I should mention that I'm not very smart.

he is standing on shoulders of giants, itd be nice if they just got a simple thank you.

Re: Show HN: I completed shipping my desktop app

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post #127

While you are not too far into selling - a word of advice. Switch to offering a year of free updates and charge a small fee after that. Trust me. You will coverge to this scheme sooner or later, so do it now. - Standalone Windows installer is a must. Windows Store is still a deserted wasteland and is not a default choice for the vast majority of Windows users. You are losing a ton of users over this. - ffmpeg and oth…

Can you elaborate on the ethical reasons? I should mention that I'm not very smart.

FFmpeg's license has various requirements, including: "Give prominent notice with each copy of the Combined Work that the Library is used in it and that the Library and its use are covered by this License."

Re: Show HN: I completed shipping my desktop app

#280

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My car comes with free recall servicing (security updates) and a manufacturer warranty.

I bet this doesn't come from the kindness of car manufacturers, but through laws and regulations requiring that. We probably don't have any of that with software, yet.

Some jurisdictions do.
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