Out of curiosity, how many other people had the gut reaction of, "Awesome! I have a dossier!"
Are my eyes really brown?
Whistleblower Binney says the NSA has dossiers on nearly every US citizen
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#42Ethics, morality and legality aside, I'd be really curious to see what information is actually stored in these "dossiers", besides (presumably) one's name, address, and other details that other branches of the government legitimately have.
I'd be quite positive that these "dossiers" are compiled specifically to correlate HUMAN->SN->DL|Criminal Record|[ONLINE WEDSITE]USER_NAME
I am positive that the NSAs current charter is to associate the real people to the virtual AMONG MANY OTHER THINGS.
So, with all that said - I have met and talked with a range of NSA personalities and they are the blackest of the black hats. DO NOT TRUST.
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#43If this were true, we wouldn't really need to conduct the census (http://www.census.gov/), right?
Perhaps the NSA has tools like pipl or spokeo to build dossiers, but not that it has every person on file, right now.
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#44Depends what you mean by dossier I am sure the NSA has a definative list of all Us residents names and SSN's but thats not a dossier in the same way That the FBI under hover had about anyone even sligtly progressive.
Id be more worried by the fact the in the USA its common practice to register with the govenment what political party you support.
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#45I wonder if MLK would exist if this were around 50 years ago.
the FBI collected a lot of dirt on MLK - Hoover was obsesed
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#46Ethics, morality and legality aside, I'd be really curious to see what information is actually stored in these "dossiers", besides (presumably) one's name, address, and other details that other branches of the government legitimately have.
I'd be quite positive that these "dossiers" are compiled specifically to correlate HUMAN->SN->DL|Criminal Record|[ONLINE WEDSITE]USER_NAME I am positive that the NSAs current charter is to associate the real people to the virtual AMONG MANY OTHER THINGS. So, with all that said - I have met and talked with a range of NSA personalities and they are the blackest of the black hats. DO NOT TRUST.
This would have lacked any credibility whatsoever if it weren't for the caps.
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#47Speaking as a youngin' who grew up with the internet (US citizen and just now 24), I've never expected any privacy for as long as I can remember. Of any sort. Only an odd sense of my insignificance providing a minor smokescreen. I accept that if I ever obtained any real notoriety, all would be laid bare in due course.
When I read articles like this, I don't wonder if anyone is surprised by these things anymore. I would hope it's understood. My mind instead turns to these questions:
"Who out there expects some eventual return of privacy?" and "What degree of effort do they expect it to require, relative to what they gain?" Surely at some point it is not worth the time/effort to reform "the system", and personal mitigation strategies are more feasible.
I rarely find myself in the role of doomsayer, but I've never lived in a world where the word "privacy" didn't already have an implicit asterisk following it. So my stance doesn't feel apocalyptic, it just feels like the way the world has always been.
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#48The NSA probably has "dossiers" on the whole world.
For example, in order to get an US Visa from the embassy they take your fingerprints. Your visa form also has a lot of data. At least that has to be centralized somewhere.
Add your online accounts to the mix and it's safe to say they have enough info about everybody.
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#49Might I suggest having some fun with one's dossier?
Like randomly doing the exact opposite of what you would ordinarily do on a daily basis. Here are some ideas...
1. Take the bus instead of driving your car.
2. Buy a pack of cigarettes if you're not a smoker.
3. Buy magazines you would never normally buy.
4. Attend a political meeting of the party you typically oppose.
5. Buy vegetarian food for a week if you're a meat eater.
etc...
If the dossier is dry and not a useful tool for profiling you then you don't have anything to worry about. If on the other hand the dossier is more sinister in nature you can dilute its usefulness by being a different person every now and then to throw it off track.
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#50If this is true doesn't it mean that Bin Laden won the war on terror? Every time I go to the airport I think this. Those full body scanners? Thanks to Bin Laden, now you practically get strip searched for every flight. You have to take off your shoes. You cannot take drinks on a plane. You then have everyone on edge no matter where you go. You and a friend play CounterStrike. You get on the bus and start talking abou…
"The War on Terror" I wish that people would learn what "The War on Terror" really is. The United States IS like other countries, including China, now and in the past. In 2001 there was an event in the United States which was very similar to the 1933 Reichstag fire in Berlin. Very few people can accept that reality, so this comment will probably be buried. I don't think people even know what a State is. The harsh tru…
Alternatively, if your post does get buried, it might be because you bald-faced assert that people who don't agree with you lack learning, can't accept reality, don't know what a state is, and are living in a make-believe fairy tale land.
In other words, "if you disagree, you're a big stoopid thicko". You're clearly not up for reasonable discussion, you're just soap-boxing.
Well, that and whining about the possibility of being buried, as some kind of reverse-psychology downmod defence.