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Re: Show HN: I completed shipping my desktop app

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Post by mike_hearn »

huhtenberg wrote: post #196
rubymamis wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem with distributing standalone installers on Windows is that all non-popular apps are immediately regarded as malware by Windows Defender unless you go through the horrendous process of signing your app, which requires obtaining a certificate (which also requires forming a company that is not an LLC) and waiting more than a month while navigating multiple rounds of bureaucracy. I’ve done it for my app, and…

> signing your app, which requires obtaining a certificate (which also requires forming a company that is not an LLC) and waiting more than a month while navigating multiple rounds of bureaucracy. This is not true, not as phrased. A. You can get a cert issued in your personal name. Not an EV one, but still. B. You are likely to already have a company if you are selling online. C. It doesn't take "a month" even for an…

They don't produce a warning on launch, but browsers will make it hard to open unsigned installers. Edge makes it especially hard. Chrome less so.

Re: Show HN: I completed shipping my desktop app

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Post by jjcm »

Looks great - exactly what I needed. I typically just revert to using ffmpeg directly, so something this simple is all I needed. Only request is 2 devices is fairly minimal for a "personal extended" license, which is likely targeting power users. Would love to see that raised to 3 or 4.

Re: Show HN: I completed shipping my desktop app

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Post by gus_massa »

scarface_74 wrote: post #253
gus_massa wrote: post #249

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Note that this is only Part I of the original comment. Parts II and III are more interesting (but everybody forgets them).

Where is part II and III?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224

Re: Show HN: I completed shipping my desktop app

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Post by datavirtue »

scarface_74 wrote: post #163
zac23or wrote: post #160

AWS can make billions from open source. On the other hand, solo developers who try the same path are basically seen as scammers. Ironic. And creating a good user interface is very, very hard. Otherwise Gimp wouldn't be the monstrosity it is.

AWS makes billions from managing servers at scale.

With gobs of OSS

Re: Show HN: I completed shipping my desktop app

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Post by johnsutor »

gitaarik wrote: post #237
zac23or wrote: post #160

AWS can make billions from open source. On the other hand, solo developers who try the same path are basically seen as scammers. Ironic. And creating a good user interface is very, very hard. Otherwise Gimp wouldn't be the monstrosity it is.

Well I think Amazon and many other huge companies are having many unethical activities, and I think we should not think that if big companies do certain things, that it should be ok for us to do it too. HN is a community of hackers, not business people that are only commercially interested. But Hackers need money too, so we also need to be a little bit commercial. But it would be ideal if we could be commercial witho…

This license is called a Fair-Source License https://fair.io/

Re: Show HN: I completed shipping my desktop app

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Post by bennythomsson »

apgwoz wrote: post #236
bennythomsson wrote: post #228

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That's not what I'm thinking. Where exactly should those $25 go? If there is such an easy place, fine, go ahead. I personally don't see one, since there are many giants on whose shoulders he is standing on. There are other options, many of them have been mentioned in this discussion. I suppose my main point is that the apparently new quite inexperienced guy, as appreciated as his enthusiasm is, should at some point u…

The fact of the matter is that there are many motivations for creating software. If someone profits off of my work, that I released into the world with licensing terms that allows them to do so, there’s no obligation that I be paid for it. I could have, myself, recognized the potential and done the work to make a marketable tool, but my motivation was different. You can fault the FOSS community for promoting default…

You a seem to be misunderstanding if not misrepresenting my point. I applaud the FOSS community for these licenses. I use them myself. And I don't expect any payment. And it's fine that if anybody invests a lot of expertise and time to build a complicated product to commercialize it. Even better if they contribute back in one way or another.

This is about a green kid coming along and quickly churning out lots of half-baked solutions, asking for frankly quite a lot of money for those, apparently without acknowledging the giants on whose shoulder they are standing. Legally they have the right to do so, sure. But we as a community can give push back in that that's not how things will work in the long run. I encourage you to check out his personal home page, you'll see what I mean. (And again, I generally applaud the enthusiasm. But those things would better be suited as portfolio-building personal OSS projects on github rather than trying to squeeze the dollars.)

There is a difference between legitimate business interests after large investments, and freeloaders.

Re: Show HN: I completed shipping my desktop app

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Post by crummy »

bagels wrote: post #198
rubymamis wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem with distributing standalone installers on Windows is that all non-popular apps are immediately regarded as malware by Windows Defender unless you go through the horrendous process of signing your app, which requires obtaining a certificate (which also requires forming a company that is not an LLC) and waiting more than a month while navigating multiple rounds of bureaucracy. I’ve done it for my app, and…

Just went through the code signing odyssey. It is a racket, but it did not take me a month. It took me a week and a half, including integration in to automated builds.

How do the automated builds work? When I tried this five years ago a hardware dongle needed to be connected to the build machine.

Re: Show HN: I completed shipping my desktop app

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Post by promptdaddy »

rq1 wrote: post #135

I’ll try to not be dismissive of the labour, though it’s kind of funny (or actually natural) that the heavy lifting libraries that only a few can actually write are open and free, while the shallow wrappers that everyone can write are paid and closed. Decades ago we were calling out these software and now it’s the norm. Another example along the line: I wanted to extract a frame from a video on iOS, it’s impossible w…

The core of your comment is mere jealousy. Why open source a project if it's not to be used.

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Post by 9cb14c1ec0 »

rubymamis wrote: post #185
9cb14c1ec0 wrote: post #180

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Azure trusted signing for the win. Only $9.99/month.

Never heard of this! What kind of certificate does it support (oddly enough, it doesn't say on the website). Do you have experience with the process?

Code signing cert. It works best as part of Github actions.

Re: Show HN: I completed shipping my desktop app

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Post by imiric »

Stratoscope wrote: post #242
phist_mcgee wrote: post #132

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Never heard of tuna fish as a phrase, do you say salmon fish and anchovy fish? Genuine question.

I think the distinction between "tuna" and "tuna fish" (tuna salad) was likely just something we made up in our own family. Maybe even just a way for us kids to prank our mom, or vice versa. "Do you want tuna, or tuna fish?" OTOH, "tuna fish" was indeed a common phrase back in those days (mid 20th century) as a synonym for canned tuna. It appeared on tuna can labels and advertisements. Here are some examples: https:/…

This thread reads like AIs talking to each other. Bizarre.
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