IMO it would be much better to redact names instead of deleting the entire stories. Newspapers in other countries like Germany never write the full names, anyway.
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Re: US newspapers are deleting old crime stories, offering subjects a 'clean slate'
#232IRL I knew someone who was charged with child sexual abuse. He went to prison awaiting trial, but the prosecution dropped the charges before it got there. He was released and went about his life. Meanwhile his mug shot photo in the local paper was the number one google search result for his name. And then it reached syndication for other news sites as well. Ideally those news paper articles should be updated to say t…
In the Netherlands media never names suspects.
But it's more of a cultural thing people just mind their own business.
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#233There's a lot of research on ban-the-box policies[1]. I assume this applies here as well. [1]: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=ban+the+box
>I assume this applies here as well. That it won't have much effect, and might actually be counterproductive? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ban_the_Box#Impact
Hiring discrimination is hard to control, and background checks are still legal.
Re: US newspapers are deleting old crime stories, offering subjects a 'clean slate'
#234IMO it would be much better to redact names instead of deleting the entire stories. Newspapers in other countries like Germany never write the full names, anyway.
You often find them on X though.
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#235Earlier quoted context omitted.
> You can argue it's involuntary servitude instead of slavery but to most people that's a meaningless distinction. The purchase and sale of humans, or the lack of such transactions is a meaningless distinction?
The purchase and sale of humans, or the lack of such transactions is a meaningless distinction? by which definition of slavery do we have “purchase and sale of humans” as part of that definition?! Article 1(1) of the 1926 Slavery Convention: “Slavery is the status or condition of a person over whom any or all of the powers attaching to the right of ownership are exercised.” just because you are not purchased/sold doe…
> by which definition of slavery
"Chattel slavery".
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#236Earlier quoted context omitted.
This doesn't work well. It results in additional discrimination. The state of the art is, as I understand it, "Fair Chance employment", where the employer explicitly agrees to hire people with criminal records. We're well on our way to the majority of employers opting in, it's snowballed nicely. And it gives jobseekers a big red flag if the company doesn't have that policy.
that's not how fair chance works -- it just means the company will consider whether or not the offense(s) are relevant to the job. the employer isn't committing to hire more people with criminal records
> the company will consider whether or not the offense(s) are relevant to the job
I doubt many employers would consider armed robbery to be a relevant job skill.
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#237Earlier quoted context omitted.
>One is not entitled to a clean social or occupational reputation In plenty of jurisdictions people are entitled precisely to that. Here in Germany the entire basis for punishment is a right to full reintegration after you have been punished . A just community punishes once , not five hundred times over and that goes both for the people and the state (which are the same thing in a democracy, the latter punishes on be…
> we have an actual duty to resocialize you You may feel that you have this duty. I do not feel that I have this duty. You are placing upon me an obligation that I will not accept.
Personally, I like living in a liberal democracy where we reintegrate criminals.
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#238Earlier quoted context omitted.
>One is not entitled to a clean social or occupational reputation In plenty of jurisdictions people are entitled precisely to that. Here in Germany the entire basis for punishment is a right to full reintegration after you have been punished . A just community punishes once , not five hundred times over and that goes both for the people and the state (which are the same thing in a democracy, the latter punishes on be…
> we have an actual duty to resocialize you You may feel that you have this duty. I do not feel that I have this duty. You are placing upon me an obligation that I will not accept.
You might be misunderstanding the word "resocialize".
It has nothing to do with you.
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#239Earlier quoted context omitted.
Slave is sometimes also referred to as captured person or captive. An imprisoned person is a captive.
But there's no purchase or sale of a human. So where's the slavery?
Only chattel slavery involves purchase or sale of a human. Any forced labor is slavery, it just might not be chattel slavery.
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#240I don't usually call thing "dumb" but this seems like a bad idea and overly forgiving. This is coming from someone who has hire nonviolent offenders in the past because I think it's a good thing to give people a second chance. You don't fix things by hiding the past.