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Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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Re: Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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I hope the stock gets destroyed next earnings when people realize they've been spending all this money on AI all to not ship a single meaningful feature nor derive any revenue leveraging it. They did the exact same thing with the whole "Metaverse" thing

META is a cash machine.

an ad machine*

Re: Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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I can't fathom how anyone thought this was a sensible thing. It's so bad I have to wonder if there's a different angle here, maybe they think that releasing something so terribly bad will make it easier when they release something less comically bad? Idk.

I find myself generally wondering the same thing about half the things coming out of SV over the past several years. I have worked with competent product organizations. I know they exist. A few even exist in SV. But for some reason the largest players have just absolutely lost the plot beyond what can get them to favorable quarterly earnings, and that game eventually and fairly consistently doesn’t end well in the lo…

It's pretty simple in my view. It's "where does the money come from" and at Meta it's not from their users. So they are motivated to entrap and wall in and build funnels to try to deliver their users to the people who are actually giving them money. They aren't building things users want. They are building things that they think will keep the users from leaving.

Re: Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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Do they not have anyone sensible left in the room? Like, you’d expect that at some point someone would have said ‘these are comically terrible, we cannot allow them to see the light of day’.

Having worked at a similarly gargantuan and dysfunctional company, I can tell you exactly how this went down. Someone had this idea for AI profiles. They speced the product and took it to engineering. The engineers had a good laugh at how preposterous it is, but then remembered that they get paid a ton of money to do what they're told, and will get promos and bonuses for launching regardless of the outcome. It all st…

Seconded. It is difficult to understate how pervasive and dysfunctional promo based development is at some of these behemoths (Google from my experience, but I hear Meta is similar). Nothing else matters as long as what you are doing correctly fits in your promo packet.

Re: Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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And he is personally responsible for so much misery on Earth that he can likely never do enough good to make up for it, not that he's going to try. The reason he never looks happy is because he is never happy. Same with his fellow oligarchs; they can get pleasure in bunches but never happiness, they can be smug but never have peace. Happiness is what happens as a result of your helping others become happier; there is…

> Happiness is what happens as a result of your helping others become happier; there is no shortcut, there is no other way. Zack has a comic on a similar concept: https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2009-11-18 Of course, the exact line of reasoning doesn’t quite work for the different formulation you stated. However, a different version of the line of reasoning seems to? How does one help another person become happier…

We all must deal with other people to survive in this world, and our treatment of everyone every single day creates a karmic result that affects us proportionally.

We are rewarded for our efforts, not their effects. If we truly try to help someone, we get some measure of happiness for our attempt, even if they refuse it or are otherwise miserable. When I tell someone to care for others' happiness, I do so in order that they do not sow the seeds of their own unhappiness. If they use their free will to ignore my recommendation, I do not lose for their choices; in fact, I've gained because I tried to help them make choices that will increase their peace and happiness. We cannot convince anyone to not be (for example) a racist, but when we engage in such efforts, we have tried to make the world a better, less miserable place, and we gain for our valiant attempt.

The intention of our ethical karmic universe is to nudge us towards caring for others, instead of being selfish aholes callous to the misery of others. The feedback mechanism is our resulting inner peace and happiness (or lack thereof).

All our choices start with an intention, however muddled or unconscious our thought process is at the time. When MZ chooses profit over policing his platform, he has planted bitter seeds, indeed, for we all reap what we sow, for good or ill.

> Or, I suppose if it is possible to be more or less unhappy for other reasons, so by helping another person become less unhappy (though not yet happy) one could thereby become happy?

Yes, indeed. And selflessly making efforts for others' happiness creates a well of magic the universe can dip into and sprinkle you with at its leisure, which is sublime and loving at its Source. That is why giving charity is so essential on the Spiritual Path of Love: because our individual and cultural selfishnesses are so stubborn, we need all the help we can get to truly self-evolve our ideals, attitudes, and behaviors.

"Ask and ye shall receive, ..." --New Testament

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You know what AI profiles I want more of? Clueless grandma/grandpa that accepts scammer calls and waste their time. Such as UK's O2 Daisy: https://news.virginmediao2.co.uk/o2-unveils-daisy-the-ai-gra...

Imagine AI calling AI and wasting each others time :D

really wasting each other’s energy

Re: Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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the comedy thing is maybe debatable but the reaction gifs thing is objectively true and kinda weird from my perspective

Are you sure it's objectively true, and not just a personal observation based on subjective experience? Given that we have had opposite experiences, it seems like the latter. Maybe the crowds you run with disproportionately use them?

yes i'm sure

https://www.google.com/search?q=reaction+gif&udm=2

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This was probably an okay idea terribly implemented. GenAI creators on social media kind of sense. Neurosama, an AI streamer, is massively popular. Silllytavern which lets people make and chat with characters or tell stories with LLMs feeds Openrouter 20 million messages a day, which is a fraction of it's totally usage. Anecdotally I've have non tech friends learn how to install Git and work an API to get this one wo…

Meta's platforms are already filled with AI slop content farms that drive clicks and engagement for them. I have a FB account for marketplace, and unsubscribed from all my pages and friends. If I log in, my feed is a neverending stream of suggested rage bait, low quality AI photos, nonsensical LLM "tips" on gardening and housekeeping. The posts seem to attract tens of thousands of reactions and comments from seemingl…

"seemingly" being the operative word. They are mostly fakes.

Re: Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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Are you sure it's objectively true, and not just a personal observation based on subjective experience? Given that we have had opposite experiences, it seems like the latter. Maybe the crowds you run with disproportionately use them?

yes i'm sure https://www.google.com/search?q=reaction+gif&udm=2

What makes you so sure?

Obviously the results of a google search isn't valid data. Who knows what's in their algorithm, what gets missed, what gets used more, etc.

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Do they not have anyone sensible left in the room? Like, you’d expect that at some point someone would have said ‘these are comically terrible, we cannot allow them to see the light of day’.

Having worked at a similarly gargantuan and dysfunctional company, I can tell you exactly how this went down. Someone had this idea for AI profiles. They speced the product and took it to engineering. The engineers had a good laugh at how preposterous it is, but then remembered that they get paid a ton of money to do what they're told, and will get promos and bonuses for launching regardless of the outcome. It all st…

The best (worst?) part is when the engineers actively overlooked actual production bugs and security concerns to do this work.

Re: Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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> Instagram profile of ‘proud Black queer momma’, created by Meta, said her development team included no Black people It’s such a weird religion.

Religion? Isn't the weirdness here that someone at Meta seems to have decided that they should make an AI bot that proudly announced its identity, despite literally not being proud, queer, black, or a mother? Who does this serve? Why? I could see a bot that's into fitness or some other hobby having a niche as a wrapper around an AI meant for advice on the hobby, but there's a certain crazy hubris to going "this LLM c…

Our language really needs a new word for what is meant here by "religion".

The word "religion" brings so much baggage with it that it just causes a cascade of communication errors in this context.

Pareto when translated from Italian to English called this "non-logical conduct" and "sentiments" but after a 100 years no one seems to care much about this aspect of Pareto's thoughts.

Sentiments would be a great word for it though instead of "religion".

Woke sentiments instead of "woke religion".

The concept of identity sentiments might even be a little bit of progress.

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