Earlier quoted context omitted.
20% of the world's prisoners are housed in America. Interactions with police and arrests are very common here.
4.25% of the world's population live in the US.
US newspapers are deleting old crime stories, offering subjects a 'clean slate'
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Re: US newspapers are deleting old crime stories, offering subjects a 'clean slate'
#52A flip side to this is that you can go here to see archives of newspapers: https://news.google.com/newspapers After reviewing lots of southern papers during the 1960s, shockingly (!) entire months are gone. I was really hoping to read their editorials saying what they thought MLK really was at that time, and then see what they wrote today. I figured this would be more fun than paying attention to Trump on inauguratio…
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#53Re: US newspapers are deleting old crime stories, offering subjects a 'clean slate'
#54I understand this is the general policy in a few places, like Germany. The general idea seems to be that it is more beneficial to a society if criminals are given a viable avenue to lead non-criminal lives again, with the alternative being people going "ah fuck it, I guess I'm a criminal now". I'm surprised at this concept spreading in the US, since the system would generally benefit from having perpetual perpetrator…
Re: US newspapers are deleting old crime stories, offering subjects a 'clean slate'
#55I understand this is the general policy in a few places, like Germany. The general idea seems to be that it is more beneficial to a society if criminals are given a viable avenue to lead non-criminal lives again, with the alternative being people going "ah fuck it, I guess I'm a criminal now". I'm surprised at this concept spreading in the US, since the system would generally benefit from having perpetual perpetrator…
journalists have different incentives than private prison operators and tend to be more progressive for whatever reason. they often are activists.
it should not be surprising that journalists might take a softer view and than prison industrialists in a country with free thought and expression
Re: US newspapers are deleting old crime stories, offering subjects a 'clean slate'
#56> One in three U.S. adults has been arrested by age 23. Does that seem crazy to anyone else? I'm in Ireland and can't think of one person in my extended family and friends that has any interaction with the police beyond routine insurance/DUI checkpoints or reporting incidents like car accidents.
Policing and imprisonment are very aggressive here. Arrests very often don't turn into convictions because the police are rewarded for wielding force any way they choose regardless of whether it's justified - their right to do this is legally protected via qualified immunity.
Ireland polices its population this way, USA doesn’t.
Re: US newspapers are deleting old crime stories, offering subjects a 'clean slate'
#57> One in three U.S. adults has been arrested by age 23. Does that seem crazy to anyone else? I'm in Ireland and can't think of one person in my extended family and friends that has any interaction with the police beyond routine insurance/DUI checkpoints or reporting incidents like car accidents.
Re: US newspapers are deleting old crime stories, offering subjects a 'clean slate'
#58A flip side to this is that you can go here to see archives of newspapers: https://news.google.com/newspapers After reviewing lots of southern papers during the 1960s, shockingly (!) entire months are gone. I was really hoping to read their editorials saying what they thought MLK really was at that time, and then see what they wrote today. I figured this would be more fun than paying attention to Trump on inauguratio…
What would happen to people’s perception of crime if only the crime perpetuated by the rich and powerful was reported on?
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#59Re: US newspapers are deleting old crime stories, offering subjects a 'clean slate'
#60I'm ok with this, as long as it's systemic. Otherwise it's just another way for people with means to get a leg up on people without means. If it's, "we delete all crime stories after N years", then fine, especially for low level, non violent stuff. The punishment for crimes should come from the justice system and people should be able to pay their dues and move on.
You're describing punishment by the state. One is entitled to move on from a fine or imprisonment. One is not entitled to a clean social or occupational reputation. There's a good reason those consequences exist.
If potential employers can always check for a criminal record, and refuse to hire criminals, then guess what those criminals will do? The answer isn’t “starve to death”.
Previously there were practical limits to how long a sentence could follow you. If you moved across the country, you might lose whatever family you still have, but at least you could get a fresh start. Nowadays that’s effectively impossible.