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Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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Re: Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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wizzwizz4 wrote: post #16
naming_the_user wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I'm saying is that it the AI to me illustrates how much of a self-own drawing these cultural battle lines is. If you choose to describe yourself by the colour of your skin first and foremost then you're telling everyone that you think that's relevant information which is, well.. the entire problem - you're telling everyone around you that you think it has predictive power. But that's what racists are, people who…

We can't expect people whose lives are, in great part, defined by the societal oppression they face, to be at the forefront of trying to erase the distinctions the bigots hold over them – not least because it'd be ineffective, serving only to hide the abuse. The categorisation schemes used by bigots (e.g. racists) do have predictive power: for the behaviour of bigots, and the resulting effects on the social context o…

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Post by asveikau »

davidw wrote: post #7

The thread is here and... it's pretty wild. This doesn't seem like it was a well-thought out idea to release this without some more consideration beforehand. https://bsky.app/profile/karenattiah.bsky.social/post/3letty...

If an AI says it, it must be true?

This seems like a possible hallucination.

Re: Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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naming_the_user wrote: post #18
Carrok wrote: post #14

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DWB exists because people (police in this case) think skin colour has predictive power. It's the same thing. (I'm not saying that it's a good thing, responders seem to be assuming that). Meh, whatever, one day maybe we'll be able to have sane discussions about this. Probably not.

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Post by AIFounder »

Trasmatta wrote: post #3

> Conversations with the characters quickly went sideways when some users peppered them with questions including who created and developed the AI. Liv, for instance, said that her creator team included zero Black people and was predominantly white and male. It was a “pretty glaring omission given my identity”, the bot wrote in response to a question from the Washington Post columnist Karen Attiah. This is probably tr…

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Re: Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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Post by asveikau »

Trasmatta wrote: post #15
davidw wrote: post #7

The thread is here and... it's pretty wild. This doesn't seem like it was a well-thought out idea to release this without some more consideration beforehand. https://bsky.app/profile/karenattiah.bsky.social/post/3letty...

> They admitted it internally, to me It's becoming an increasingly apparent problem that people don't understand that LLMs frequently hallucinate, especially when asked to introspect about themselves. This was 100% a hallucination.

It's getting weird that people cite ChatGPT to settle debates. Even on places like HN where supposedly people have a technical background and know they shouldn't blindly trust an LLM as a source of truth. Even with the banners it has warning about this.

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Post by Digory »

naming_the_user wrote: post #5

> Those AI profiles included Liv, whose profile described her as a “proud Black queer momma of 2 & truth-teller” I find this stuff absolutely fascinating, that even an AI bot tries to do this sort of thing. It just strikes me that there is no world in which racism will ever die out as long as things like this are happening. You can't have it both ways. If race is just melanin content then we have no issue. That's the…

I understand Elon and Pmarca to be saying that this behavior is programmed in by 'safety teams' at Meta.

It is an odd way of calcifying late-20th century American upper class anxiety. If we can't give the engineers a different moral goal, it will become the default mode of knowledge. A more immediate problem than "AI will kill us" is the dev teams determined to avoid "erasure" or "digital genocide" or whatever they'd call a race/culture-agnostic AI.

Re: Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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Post by naming_the_user »

greenthrow wrote: post #27
naming_the_user wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know what you're talking about at all.

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Yes, races are clearly total bollocks. I don't know why you've gotten any other conclusion from what I've written here which is why I'm confused, you seem to be agreeing with me angrily.

Re: Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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Post by healsdata »

naming_the_user wrote: post #5

> Those AI profiles included Liv, whose profile described her as a “proud Black queer momma of 2 & truth-teller” I find this stuff absolutely fascinating, that even an AI bot tries to do this sort of thing. It just strikes me that there is no world in which racism will ever die out as long as things like this are happening. You can't have it both ways. If race is just melanin content then we have no issue. That's the…

I find it hard to believe that someone would say something similar about any other aspect of cultural identity and not be instantly flagged for it.

Are you truly advocating that people should no longer be proud of their cultural identity? Are you applying that to all the folks in tech who proudly identify as Christian or Jewish? Does it apply to Italian Americans and Indigenous people? What about folks who are proud to speak endangered languages, like West Flemish or Romani?

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