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Mufasa's 'Bye Bye' shows how Disney villain songs went wrong
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Re: Mufasa's 'Bye Bye' shows how Disney villain songs went wrong
#12This is baffling to me. Even Sonic 3, the same weekend, has a more memorable villain song (if you can call it that) where it openly revels in a “110-year-old” Jim Carrey dancing with himself. That’s not even a high bar, but at least it is memorable, which Disney isn’t meeting.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OemQbTu6iUA&pp=ygUNU29uaWMgMyB...
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#13Still nothing on "Va, Tosca" or "Der Hoelle Rache kocht im meinem Hertzen". Look them up if you want to see music expressing the minds of villains to perfection. If Disney understood the art form more they wouldn't be making these mistakes. Sadly too few people have a serious background vs listen to a few current things without getting where they are from.
Do you mean this song?
> Der Hölle Rache kocht in meinem Herzen
Re: Mufasa's 'Bye Bye' shows how Disney villain songs went wrong
#14> It feels like Disney villain songs have become a box-ticking exercise, added more out of a sense of obligation than out of inspiration. The article concludes with this sentiment, which I think is correct and applies to the entire movie of Mufasa , as well as many other Disney movies being made. Did we need a “live action” Lion King at all, let alone a “live action” prequel? The whole concept seems mediocre, so it’s…
Its entertainment, needing it is not the point at all, for the company it is mostly about trying to keep the money machine going. The Lion King net income was 580 MILLION. Maybe you don't need it, but Disney sure as heck enjoyed that, and so did many others that saw it.
Re: Mufasa's 'Bye Bye' shows how Disney villain songs went wrong
#15Best Disney villain song IMO is Kaa's "Trust in Me". He's not the main baddy of the Jungle Book, but he is every bit as compelling as Shere Khan.
only live action remake disney i liked. i havent seen one since part of Mulan so maybe theres another gem in there somewhere
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#16I know Miranda who wrote this is a pretty heavyhanded US liberal, can't help but hear quite a lot of trump in the way Mikkelsen reads "Bye Bye":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMWsYJxCK4I
I wonder if this song was intended to be more revealing to a US-pop-culture-brained consumer, but the reference didn't land?
Re: Mufasa's 'Bye Bye' shows how Disney villain songs went wrong
#17I know Miranda who wrote this is a pretty heavyhanded US liberal, can't help but hear quite a lot of trump in the way Mikkelsen reads "Bye Bye": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMWsYJxCK4I I wonder if this song was intended to be more revealing to a US-pop-culture-brained consumer, but the reference didn't land?
Or, there is just a lack of evil in it.
Re: Mufasa's 'Bye Bye' shows how Disney villain songs went wrong
#18I know Miranda who wrote this is a pretty heavyhanded US liberal, can't help but hear quite a lot of trump in the way Mikkelsen reads "Bye Bye": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMWsYJxCK4I I wonder if this song was intended to be more revealing to a US-pop-culture-brained consumer, but the reference didn't land?
At least Miranda wrote "Shiny" which is the best of the recent Disney Villain songs..
Some of the reviewers made the great point that Moana 2 falls flat compared to the first one partly because Lin-Manuel Miranda wasn't on the songwriting team. (Your Welcome was excellent too)
I haven't seen this Lion King movie but that's a rare failure for him if "Bye Bye" isn't very good.
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#19Still nothing on "Va, Tosca" or "Der Hoelle Rache kocht im meinem Hertzen". Look them up if you want to see music expressing the minds of villains to perfection. If Disney understood the art form more they wouldn't be making these mistakes. Sadly too few people have a serious background vs listen to a few current things without getting where they are from.
Do you mean this song? > Der Hölle Rache kocht in meinem Herzen
Thanks for fixing the typo and my poor Unicode on mobile skills
Re: Mufasa's 'Bye Bye' shows how Disney villain songs went wrong
#20I know Miranda who wrote this is a pretty heavyhanded US liberal, can't help but hear quite a lot of trump in the way Mikkelsen reads "Bye Bye": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMWsYJxCK4I I wonder if this song was intended to be more revealing to a US-pop-culture-brained consumer, but the reference didn't land?
At least Miranda wrote "Shiny" which is the best of the recent Disney Villain songs.. Some of the reviewers made the great point that Moana 2 falls flat compared to the first one partly because Lin-Manuel Miranda wasn't on the songwriting team. (Your Welcome was excellent too) I haven't seen this Lion King movie but that's a rare failure for him if "Bye Bye" isn't very good.
His new song in Live Action little mermaid was meh. I don't think it's as bad as the internet makes it out to be but 'The Scuttlebutt' definitely feels out of place.
Given context, Scuttle is supposed to be an annoying character and Awkwafina does annoying lol. Still though, as one of a couple of new songs it sticks out in a bad way.