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A web app to read Latin texts with inline translations
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Re: A web app to read Latin texts with inline translations
#12After finishing DuoLingo’s Latin course, I wanted to read some Latin texts, but I didn't find easy enough texts and going back and forth to a dictionary was cumbersome. So I created this app for reading basic Latin texts. The idea of the app is to have a Latin text with translation of each word under the paragraph line, which makes it easy to grasp the meaning but also focuses on reading the original Latin text. It o…
>I used OpenAI to do the translation which looks pretty good for me, with the caveat that... well... I do not know Latin OpenAI also does not know Latin. This is either a tool to troll people that can read Latin or a tool to help people “learn” a made up vaguely Latin-shaped set of gibberish that ChatGPT nondeterministically generated. This only works for a definition of “Latin” that is a sort of vibe wholly detached…
vaguely Latin-shaped set of gibberish that ChatGPT nondeterministically generated
OP hadn't used AI to generate Latin, but to generate English.Re: A web app to read Latin texts with inline translations
#13There's some intensive spoken Latin course in Rome, I remember reading about it at the time and it sounded totally immersive. It was a follow on from what Fr Foster had run previously ( https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/father-reginald-foste... ). On my bucket list whenever I win the Powerball and can stop working full time
Especially after having had to learn Latin the "old fashioned way", which is basically like learning English via analyzing and translating Shakespeare word by word, musing about the meaning of each words position. All while hardly being able to produce your own sentences
Re: A web app to read Latin texts with inline translations
#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
>I used OpenAI to do the translation which looks pretty good for me, with the caveat that... well... I do not know Latin OpenAI also does not know Latin. This is either a tool to troll people that can read Latin or a tool to help people “learn” a made up vaguely Latin-shaped set of gibberish that ChatGPT nondeterministically generated. This only works for a definition of “Latin” that is a sort of vibe wholly detached…
vaguely Latin-shaped set of gibberish that ChatGPT nondeterministically generated OP hadn't used AI to generate Latin, but to generate English .
Re: A web app to read Latin texts with inline translations
#15TIL the sentence structure of Latin is wild
Latin’s sentence structure is much more flexible than languages such as English. For example, Latin uses cases for nouns to indicate which is the subject and which is the object, whereas English uses word order. This allows Latin sentences to be constructed in various orders without affecting meaning. It also leads to Latin’s reputation for trying the patience of students such as myself (studied for five years at sch…
And the latin case is made muuuch more extreme due to the fact that we read poetry and stuff written in the yambic hexameter, which would have also been quite alien sounding to an average roman citizen on the street.
Re: A web app to read Latin texts with inline translations
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
vaguely Latin-shaped set of gibberish that ChatGPT nondeterministically generated OP hadn't used AI to generate Latin, but to generate English .
It doesn’t matter which set of text you generate with ChatGPT in this case. Using it in either makes the output useless as a tool to learn anything about both sets of text. This issue is compounded further when, as the OP readily admits, there is no quality check involved (OP does not know Latin)
Using it in either makes the output useless as a tool to learn anything about both sets of text
OP is using it as a tool to improve their comprehension of Latin. The tool shows a word by word translation, which is jarring to read linearly, but works well for filling in gaps.It's far from useless as an aid to comprehend the Latin text.
It's been over thirty years since I last studied Latin, but I still remember enough to be able to tell that this tool would be useful for a learner, even without perfect accuracy.
Re: A web app to read Latin texts with inline translations
#17After finishing DuoLingo’s Latin course, I wanted to read some Latin texts, but I didn't find easy enough texts and going back and forth to a dictionary was cumbersome. So I created this app for reading basic Latin texts. The idea of the app is to have a Latin text with translation of each word under the paragraph line, which makes it easy to grasp the meaning but also focuses on reading the original Latin text. It o…
Re: A web app to read Latin texts with inline translations
#18There's some intensive spoken Latin course in Rome, I remember reading about it at the time and it sounded totally immersive. It was a follow on from what Fr Foster had run previously ( https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/father-reginald-foste... ). On my bucket list whenever I win the Powerball and can stop working full time
I suppose you've alreard heard of it, but Lingua Latina per se Illustrata is also supposed to be very good. Especially after having had to learn Latin the "old fashioned way", which is basically like learning English via analyzing and translating Shakespeare word by word, musing about the meaning of each words position. All while hardly being able to produce your own sentences
Re: A web app to read Latin texts with inline translations
#19I just tried the same thing with the linked Latin text and Gemini Experimental 1206. The results appear below. Perhaps someone who knows Latin can tell us how accurate the glosses, translations, and grammatical explanations are.
Re: A web app to read Latin texts with inline translations
#20TIL the sentence structure of Latin is wild
Latin’s sentence structure is much more flexible than languages such as English. For example, Latin uses cases for nouns to indicate which is the subject and which is the object, whereas English uses word order. This allows Latin sentences to be constructed in various orders without affecting meaning. It also leads to Latin’s reputation for trying the patience of students such as myself (studied for five years at sch…