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ASCII porn predates the Internet but it's still everywhere (2019)

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Re: ASCII porn predates the Internet but it's still everywhere (2019)

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The French minitel in mid-80s was successful also thanks to online porn. It was not using the internet (not TCP-IP network), but it was pushing the ASCII art to its limits :) https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-10-24-mn-718-st... and it made some people rich https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/europe/le-monde-t...

I remember there were ads everywhere for stuff like 3615 ULLA, magazine, billboards, any walls etc. Crazy time.

Re: ASCII porn predates the Internet but it's still everywhere (2019)

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These are nudes, not porn. Is "The Birth of Venus" by Botticelli also porn?

Nudes are not always porn, but that doesn't mean they can't be porn either. Ultimately I would say it comes down to whether the intent is to titillate, but of course porn is notoriously hard to define.

Re: ASCII porn predates the Internet but it's still everywhere (2019)

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American culture is very prudish, courtesy of its Puritanical roots which even today cause us to label a woman sucking off an enormous penis (like in "Deep ASCII", referenced in article) as so-called "pornography".

Yeah, but blowing up people on TV shows, with blood and body parts going everywhere is perfectly alright. That is the thing with censorship, it isn't consequent.

Different cultures each have their own standards for what is and is not considered offensive, and each culture thinks that its standards are correct. That isn't hypocrisy, it's just how this whole topic works. There are no two human cultures in history which have entirely agreed on what is and isn't offensive, so why do people feel the need to pick on Americans specifically? It strikes me as extremely narrow-minded.

Re: ASCII porn predates the Internet but it's still everywhere (2019)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, but blowing up people on TV shows, with blood and body parts going everywhere is perfectly alright. That is the thing with censorship, it isn't consequent.

Different cultures each have their own standards for what is and is not considered offensive, and each culture thinks that its standards are correct. That isn't hypocrisy, it's just how this whole topic works. There are no two human cultures in history which have entirely agreed on what is and isn't offensive, so why do people feel the need to pick on Americans specifically? It strikes me as extremely narrow-minded.

Because Americans love to push their standards on the rest of the world, specially American companies with high control of Internet contents.

Then again, the current geopolitic clima has proven the time we are supposed to be all friends across the technology field, is coming to an end, and every nation is better off putting effort in ramping up with own siloed technology with less dependency in foreign nations.

Re: ASCII porn predates the Internet but it's still everywhere (2019)

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It's not trivial to display ASCII art as text in html. There's so many ways to mess it up that unless the site is dedicated to ASCII art, a simple image is really preferable.

works pretty reliably

For whitespace and for the simplest ASCII sure, but for anything a bit more complex you might have problems with

1. HTML reserved characters like and \.

2. overflowing content

3. displaying ASCII made with special encodings and characters sets, like code page 437

4. displaying nonprintable (control) characters

5. displaying colors

6. text preprocessors messing up the formatting

Re: ASCII porn predates the Internet but it's still everywhere (2019)

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post #12

The French minitel in mid-80s was successful also thanks to online porn. It was not using the internet (not TCP-IP network), but it was pushing the ASCII art to its limits :) https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-10-24-mn-718-st... and it made some people rich https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/europe/le-monde-t...

A TV show revolving around this exact period titled « 3615 Monique » (« Cheeky Business » in English) was released in 2020. A kind of french « Social Network » in some way, pretty cool
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