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Déjà vu: Ghostly CVEs in my terminal title

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Re: Déjà vu: Ghostly CVEs in my terminal title

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> To wit, ghostty does not actually have a fast release velocity compared to its peers. Sigh. I’ll explain again but seems like you don’t want to listen either ;) My original comment didn’t have to spark a comparison war. If I walk past a new flower shop in my village and remark at how beautiful the roses look, it isn’t criticizing all other flower shops and or saying this one has the best roses. Maybe I even already…

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Re: Déjà vu: Ghostly CVEs in my terminal title

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> To wit, ghostty does not actually have a fast release velocity compared to its peers. Sigh. I’ll explain again but seems like you don’t want to listen either ;) My original comment didn’t have to spark a comparison war. If I walk past a new flower shop in my village and remark at how beautiful the roses look, it isn’t criticizing all other flower shops and or saying this one has the best roses. Maybe I even already…

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> And I didn't feel the need to resort to personally attacking you to try to make my point. Something you should learn from.

Coming from the person repeatedly calling me a shill and a liar? Don’t make me laugh!

It seems you still don’t get it. You are the one that has turned this into ghostty vs kitty, not me. I suspect you understand the flower shop analogy but are just ignoring it because it doesn’t help your argument. At no point have I said that ghostty is better than kitty ;) I’m still using kitty as we speak, so my usual flower shop hasn’t changed.

It’s kind of sad that you are so upset that someone on the internet could possibly be impressed with ghostty’s 1.0.1 release notes. I have little interest in your take on it, because it is needlessly trolling on an innocent comment.

Possibly you should take note from the downvotes and flags on your comments here. No doubt you will blame the army of ghostty shills who have organised themselves into a globally coordinated voting ring. As for me, I take it as a signal that what you have to say on this thread isn’t particularly interesting or worth replying to.

Re: Déjà vu: Ghostly CVEs in my terminal title

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It’s interesting how singularly passionate you are about Kitty, with almost all of your comments for the last year (or longer) being about Kitty. Don’t you have something more interesting to do with your time than to find opportunities to say: nah Kitty is better ;) I was just finding something to be impressed about, considering it has only just gone public and open source (as opposed to a mature project with establi…

FYI: aumerle is kitty's maintainer. i don't know why he is talking about the project as if unaffiliated.

Oh boy, that actually explains a lot! And this whole time he was accusing me of being insincere XD

Also explains why he suddenly had no time to talk further when ghostty’s author offered to have a call elsewhere in this thread. Just here to advertise his terminal.

I must say, I quite like how ghostty’s author has conducted himself. Might give ghostty a try once it’s packaged for my distro and first few rounds of bugfixes are in.

Re: Déjà vu: Ghostly CVEs in my terminal title

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> And I didn't feel the need to resort to personally attacking you to try to make my point. Something you should learn from. Coming from the person repeatedly calling me a shill and a liar? Don’t make me laugh! It seems you still don’t get it. You are the one that has turned this into ghostty vs kitty, not me. I suspect you understand the flower shop analogy but are just ignoring it because it doesn’t help your argum…

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Re: Déjà vu: Ghostly CVEs in my terminal title

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> To wit, ghostty does not actually have a fast release velocity compared to its peers. Sigh. I’ll explain again but seems like you don’t want to listen either ;) My original comment didn’t have to spark a comparison war. If I walk past a new flower shop in my village and remark at how beautiful the roses look, it isn’t criticizing all other flower shops and or saying this one has the best roses. Maybe I even already…

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Re: Déjà vu: Ghostly CVEs in my terminal title

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I really wish that 1% of the sustained effort that is currently being devoted to building terminal emulators and TUI applications was collectively redirected at researching a better future to fill this niche.

Terminal emulators and TUI applications belong with the DMG Gameboys, Commodore 64's, and DOSBoxes: as a historical curiosity and something for the enthusiasts to enjoy after hours. But we've come to rely on them almost to the point where they're being fetishised; most of us using this technology nowadays aren't even questioning its negative impact.

We need better command line / REPL environments. We need better cross-platform GUI toolkits. We need better remote access. And we need to let go of the TV teletype.

Re: Déjà vu: Ghostly CVEs in my terminal title

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> And I didn't feel the need to resort to personally attacking you to try to make my point. Something you should learn from. Coming from the person repeatedly calling me a shill and a liar? Don’t make me laugh! It seems you still don’t get it. You are the one that has turned this into ghostty vs kitty, not me. I suspect you understand the flower shop analogy but are just ignoring it because it doesn’t help your argum…

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> to refute yours

Oh boy, you still don’t get it! The fact you saw it as something that needed refuting really says a lot more about you than anything else. It’s actually ok to let positive comments about other terminals go unrefuted and just get on with your life ;) But seemingly you can’t let it go.

By the way, nobody is choosing ghostty over kitty just because of the release notes for 1.0.1, so no need to fret! If I was shilling I’d have picked something more persuasive ;)

For anyone else following this disaster of a subthread, I’ve now realised “aumerle” is actually Kovid Goyal, the undisclaimed author of Kitty.

If I had to speculate, seems he’s just on edge that there’s a new kid on the block gaining popularity. A story as old as time!

Re: Déjà vu: Ghostly CVEs in my terminal title

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I really wish that 1% of the sustained effort that is currently being devoted to building terminal emulators and TUI applications was collectively redirected at researching a better future to fill this niche. Terminal emulators and TUI applications belong with the DMG Gameboys, Commodore 64's, and DOSBoxes: as a historical curiosity and something for the enthusiasts to enjoy after hours. But we've come to rely on the…

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Re: Déjà vu: Ghostly CVEs in my terminal title

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Just cross posting my lobsters post: I want to say thanks to @dgl for reporting this, and this article is also expertly written. I also have to say for me personally its quite embarrassing because as I told @dgl when he reported this: I’ve studied his work before and made it a note to test Ghostty against his past discoveries prior to release. And I… quite simply forgot. I didn’t make an issue for myself so it slippe…

Shouldn't all these control-plane operations be moved to ioctl instead, like TIOCSWINSZ? Of course, getting all terminal emulators and TUI programs to use them would be a formidable migration undertaking.

Re: Déjà vu: Ghostly CVEs in my terminal title

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It’s interesting how singularly passionate you are about Kitty, with almost all of your comments for the last year (or longer) being about Kitty. Don’t you have something more interesting to do with your time than to find opportunities to say: nah Kitty is better ;) I was just finding something to be impressed about, considering it has only just gone public and open source (as opposed to a mature project with establi…

FYI: aumerle is kitty's maintainer. i don't know why he is talking about the project as if unaffiliated.

Like Julius Caesar, who used to write about himself in the third person laudative demonstrative ("ille")?
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