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The advantage is that this guy, who otherwise wouldn't have been able to accomplish his goals, did. He did because PHP was accessible. And till other languages are as dead-simple to accomplish small-to-medium tasks, PHP will continue to have fans such as the OP.
imho ruby is simpler than php.
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Here's the thing: I'm not interested in being a 'programmer', I just want to build out my product ideas. And right now I do it with the language I know best: PHP.
Then why even bother listening to what people who do want to be programmers write about your tools?
Programmers, you are not in a position to defend a language if said language is all you know.
Similarly, I wasn't interested in the computer science part at first either, but boy has the importance of the "managing complexity" part made itself obvious over the years.
Why is it that the people who take the time to blog defensively about PHP are typically monoglot coders? After my third or fourth language helped me understand what programming was at its core, I stopped using just one and ended up writing...a lot less code for any particular task.
Disclaimer: I am a PHP programmer. I write PHP every day. With that said, oh god please shut up already! This dick-waving is getting out of control. It has gotten to the point that people are writing these articles just because they know they will get hits. PHP is a good tool. It's not the best tool, but it's good enough. Over time it will get better. It is what it is.
Disclaimer: I am a PHP programmer. I write PHP every day. With that said, oh god please shut up already! This dick-waving is getting out of control. It has gotten to the point that people are writing these articles just because they know they will get hits. PHP is a good tool. It's not the best tool, but it's good enough. Over time it will get better. It is what it is.
If you take this story, remove anything specific to PHP and then copy paste it a few times replacing PHP successively with Perl, Ruby, Python, and JavaScript then you have my trajectory as a coder. Similarly, I wasn't interested in the computer science part at first either, but boy has the importance of the "managing complexity" part made itself obvious over the years. Why is it that the people who take the time to b…
I'm not saying that I will never use another language (obj-c has caught my interest) but I will never use another language for the sake of using it - especially not when I can do more or less the same thing as with PHP.
there is a problem with a seasoned craftsman who will not admit it is dull
When you have more pride in your tools than in your craft , you're not doing it right. Anyone who's been using PHP long enough to be proficient in it should move to a more robust toolset simply to get more done. To sneer on Python and Ruby as being elitist is just the sort of thing a self-proclaimed "PHP programmer" would do. You shouldn't aspire to be an "X programmer", but a programmer period. Learn more tools, mor…
Here's the thing: I'm not interested in being a 'programmer', I just want to build out my product ideas. And right now I do it with the language I know best: PHP.
Remember a programmer is not necessarily interested in programming, but often in having programmed, where the end result is paramount.
When I see "PHP programmer" it's all too easy to jump to the conclusion of someone who's too timid to go outside their little bubble and see how other people get things done.
Another "Look I can build websites with PHP!" post. The biggest draw of PHP seems to be that there is a large quantity of (often bad) copy paste-able code out there on the internet.
- a wide selection of well documented frameworks to choose from
- a wide selection of robust CMS's to choose from
- a variety of CRM's to choose from
- runs on a bog-standard web server (apache, IIS) right out of the box