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Re: Dog Aging Project

#41
post #7

Are there other examples of innovations flowing from veterinary medicine to human medicine?

I don't know, but if you find your dog is now immortal at the human equivalent of 25 and you're getting old and grey, everything hurts, and the babes don't look at you any more, you're probably going to want something to get done about it, pronto.

Re: Dog Aging Project

#42

Obviously most people disagree, but I don't think we should search for medical advances that make life significantly longer. We should search for ideas that make the finite life on this planet significantly better. A longer life is dangerous. If people could live 150 or 200 years that will make the problems on this planet much worse since the desire to accumulate wealth over that time would be insane.

Is there much difference between an individual living and accumulating wealth over 200 years vs 3 generations of a family living and accumulating wealth over that time? External factors that change fortunes would mostly still stay the same. Biggest difference I can think of would be less change of an incompetent younger generation throwing the wealth away

Re: Dog Aging Project

#44
post #23

Urgh some ungodly JavaScript is hijacking the scrolling, I wish the site wasn't so ineptly written.

bahaha usually when HN people are complaining about a website I think they're being dramatic but the way this was scrolljacked, it's almost like it's designed to frustrate you

I participated in this project with my dog for two years. I stopped as the clunkiness of the web ui and lengthiness and frequency of the surveys. The experience left me dubious as to the project's methodologies.

Re: Dog Aging Project

#45

Obviously most people disagree, but I don't think we should search for medical advances that make life significantly longer. We should search for ideas that make the finite life on this planet significantly better. A longer life is dangerous. If people could live 150 or 200 years that will make the problems on this planet much worse since the desire to accumulate wealth over that time would be insane.

Is there much difference between an individual living and accumulating wealth over 200 years vs 3 generations of a family living and accumulating wealth over that time? External factors that change fortunes would mostly still stay the same. Biggest difference I can think of would be less change of an incompetent younger generation throwing the wealth away

Well the "throwing wealth away" is a big difference. And it's not just a matter of wealth. It's what people do with that wealth, such as influence the world negatively. The top 1% of those hell-bent on doing strange things usually don't have children that are similarly obsessed. And finally, it would increase the TOTAL number of people, which would exacerbate the situation because an absolute total number of people means even more exploitation by the rich.

Re: Dog Aging Project

#46

Obviously most people disagree, but I don't think we should search for medical advances that make life significantly longer. We should search for ideas that make the finite life on this planet significantly better. A longer life is dangerous. If people could live 150 or 200 years that will make the problems on this planet much worse since the desire to accumulate wealth over that time would be insane.

> A longer life is dangerous. If people could live 150 or 200 years that will make the problems on this planet much worse since the desire to accumulate wealth over that time would be insane.

I honestly think this meme is way more dangerous and insane than the idea of having a longer and healthier life

Re: Dog Aging Project

#47

Obviously most people disagree, but I don't think we should search for medical advances that make life significantly longer. We should search for ideas that make the finite life on this planet significantly better. A longer life is dangerous. If people could live 150 or 200 years that will make the problems on this planet much worse since the desire to accumulate wealth over that time would be insane.

> A longer life is dangerous. If people could live 150 or 200 years that will make the problems on this planet much worse since the desire to accumulate wealth over that time would be insane. I honestly think this meme is way more dangerous and insane than the idea of having a longer and healthier life

Why?

Re: Dog Aging Project

#48

Obviously most people disagree, but I don't think we should search for medical advances that make life significantly longer. We should search for ideas that make the finite life on this planet significantly better. A longer life is dangerous. If people could live 150 or 200 years that will make the problems on this planet much worse since the desire to accumulate wealth over that time would be insane.

Apparently they'd agree. From their Project Details page:

> At the Dog Aging Project, we’re focused on healthy aging not just lifespan extension. We want to understand the biological and environmental factors that influence aging and intervene to prevent debilitating decline. We imagine a future in which we maximize healthspan—the period of life spent in good health and free from disease—allowing us many more years with high quality of life.

Re: Dog Aging Project

#49
post #11

Animal domestication is really wild. So we first select for neoteny (playfulness, dependency on caregiver, physical features people like) basically prolonging the juvenile state. Then we put them in controlled environments of abundance, were all their needs are met. Which further diminishes need to reach adult state (with traits like aggressiveness to compete for resources). This abundance causes them to mature/breed…

> neoteny What domesticated animals were bread for "cuteness"? Cats are mice hunters. Most popular dog breeds were selected for killing and dog fight! That "big smile" is not for laughter, but to crush bones! And many domesticated animals can not even reproduce without human assistance. How they would survive in wild?

Chihuahua.

Re: Dog Aging Project

#50

Obviously most people disagree, but I don't think we should search for medical advances that make life significantly longer. We should search for ideas that make the finite life on this planet significantly better. A longer life is dangerous. If people could live 150 or 200 years that will make the problems on this planet much worse since the desire to accumulate wealth over that time would be insane.

> A longer life is dangerous.

Just so we know, at what point should we have stopped searching for medical advances that make life significantly longer? I’m assuming you’re anti-chemotherapy?

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