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Re: LineageOS 22

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Lawnchair [1] is a pretty good alternative. [1] https://github.com/LawnchairLauncher/lawnchair

It needs to be in f-droid, or maybe on ffupdater.

It is on F-Droid IIRC.

Edit: just checked, it’s in the IzzyOnDroid repo: https://apt.izzysoft.de/fdroid/index/apk/app.lawnchair

Re: LineageOS 22

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I find any time I've put lineage on a device, the support lifetime is lower than I expect. In a perfect world, you would be able to bring your old device forward to multiple new major android releases beyond the support lifetime of the manufacturer, like you can with a Linux distro on a PC. But I guess android doesn't work that way, even with third parties willing to make new builds.

Often device drivers specific to the model of handset are only available as pre-compiled binary blobs, and will not run with any future kernel release without herculean effort to reverse engineer them and implement a shim. This effectively ties the hardware to a single kernel release. The practice makes ewaste of otherwise perfectly usable devices, and should be illegal.

Isn’t that significantly on the Linux kernel not having stable driver ABIs?

Re: LineageOS 22

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Out of curiosity, what do you buy? I had Xiaomi last and bought another one recently and they have made it pretty much impossible to unlock the bootloader. Apparently limited number of unlocks at 12am Beijing time. I have tried a few times, read through all the complaints and the community forums, and Xiaomi can very kindly just fuck off. It used to be really good value for money as the hardware is great. But without…

Oh interesting. I was planning to get a Xiaomi as my next phone; I recently heard that they limited the number of unlocks to one per person per year. I got a OnePlus and a Pixel. Before that it was a ZTE, but they aren't unlock-friendly these days.

> limited the number of unlocks to one per person per year

I’m wondering how exactly they are gonna enforce that.

Re: LineageOS 22

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Often device drivers specific to the model of handset are only available as pre-compiled binary blobs, and will not run with any future kernel release without herculean effort to reverse engineer them and implement a shim. This effectively ties the hardware to a single kernel release. The practice makes ewaste of otherwise perfectly usable devices, and should be illegal.

Isn’t that significantly on the Linux kernel not having stable driver ABIs?

I don't see how any choice the Linux developers make forces phone manufacturers to do anything.

It's their choice to use Linux. They can abide by the license or not ship Linux.

Not to mention that there are many more or less stable APIs within the kernel (which even has versioned API support in places) such as Video4Linux which manufacturers seem dead set against using.

Re: LineageOS 22

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Can you get this to install on Fire tablets? They are getting cheaper and cheaper, but the utility value without a minimal stock environment is very less.

There are unofficial builds if you wanna give it a shot.

Re: LineageOS 22

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Highly recommend the Samsung S5e Tablet with LineageOS. It’s an amazing tablet for comics and light reading. Hard to beat its high res AMOLED display, incredibly light weight, and decent enough specs (I haven’t personally seen slowdowns when using Lineage on a minimal install). Forgoing gapps gets you crazy standby time. Couple things to note is it doesn’t have a headphone jack (it is legitimately that thin though) a…

Thank you for the tip ! Was looking for a portable device at home for random browsing, it will be a nice beginning of the year project ! Do you recommend installing v21 or a previous version on this device ?

Re: LineageOS 22

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I find any time I've put lineage on a device, the support lifetime is lower than I expect. In a perfect world, you would be able to bring your old device forward to multiple new major android releases beyond the support lifetime of the manufacturer, like you can with a Linux distro on a PC. But I guess android doesn't work that way, even with third parties willing to make new builds.

Often device drivers specific to the model of handset are only available as pre-compiled binary blobs, and will not run with any future kernel release without herculean effort to reverse engineer them and implement a shim. This effectively ties the hardware to a single kernel release. The practice makes ewaste of otherwise perfectly usable devices, and should be illegal.

Any devices that fare better in this regard?

Re: LineageOS 22

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Often device drivers specific to the model of handset are only available as pre-compiled binary blobs, and will not run with any future kernel release without herculean effort to reverse engineer them and implement a shim. This effectively ties the hardware to a single kernel release. The practice makes ewaste of otherwise perfectly usable devices, and should be illegal.

Isn’t that significantly on the Linux kernel not having stable driver ABIs?

They could also contribute to the Linux kernel like normal companies instead of shipping half broken binary blobs.

Re: LineageOS 22

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I still buy devices based on the likelihood that they will be supported by LineageOS. Good to see them continuing along.

Out of curiosity, what do you buy? I had Xiaomi last and bought another one recently and they have made it pretty much impossible to unlock the bootloader. Apparently limited number of unlocks at 12am Beijing time. I have tried a few times, read through all the complaints and the community forums, and Xiaomi can very kindly just fuck off. It used to be really good value for money as the hardware is great. But without…

I managed to unlock a xiaomi redmi note 9. The bootloader unlock tool only work on windows and on intel based computers (don't ask me why). I had to reinstall temporarily a windows on a computer to do that.

But this is really a brand to avoid at all cost anyway. Also these smartphones come super bloated out of the box with apps phoning home constantly, and super unreliables. 2 members of my houshold owned one and on both of them the screen started not accepting touch input randomly. These was on 2 different models.

Re: LineageOS 22

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Oh interesting. I was planning to get a Xiaomi as my next phone; I recently heard that they limited the number of unlocks to one per person per year. I got a OnePlus and a Pixel. Before that it was a ZTE, but they aren't unlock-friendly these days.

> limited the number of unlocks to one per person per year I’m wondering how exactly they are gonna enforce that.

you actually have to create a xiaomi account to be able to unlock a xiaomi phone with their crappy bootloader unlocking tool (only running on windows FWIW).

This is just a terrible experience, avoid this brand like the plague.

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