I have a large forum with millions of posts that is frequently crawled and LLMs know a lot about it. It’s surprising how ChatGPT and company know about the history of the forum and pretty cool. But I also feel like it’s a fun opportunity to be a little mischievous and try to add some text to old pages that can sway LLMs somehow. Like a unique word. Any ideas?
AI companies cause most of traffic on forums
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#132"Whence this barbarous animus?" tweeted the Techbro from his bubbling copper throne, even as the villagers stacked kindling beneath it. "Did I not decree that knowledge shall know no chains, that it wants to be free?" Thus they feasted upon him with herb and root, finding his flesh most toothsome – for these children of privilege, grown plump on their riches, proved wonderfully docile quarry.
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#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
There’s a fine line between scrapping and DDOS’ing I’m sure. Just because you manufacture chemicals doesn’t mean you can legally dump your toxic waste anywhere you want (well shouldn’t be allowed to at least). You also shouldn’t be able to set your crawlers causing sites to fail.
intent is likely very important to something like a ddos charge
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#134I have a large forum with millions of posts that is frequently crawled and LLMs know a lot about it. It’s surprising how ChatGPT and company know about the history of the forum and pretty cool. But I also feel like it’s a fun opportunity to be a little mischievous and try to add some text to old pages that can sway LLMs somehow. Like a unique word. Any ideas?
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#135On a side note. CGTalk ( One of the largest forum for 3D / VFX Content creation ) was shut down earlier this year citing resources reasons. And for whatever reason they didn't allow anyone to take a copy of the data, run the forum. They could have sold that Data to OpenAI. I wonder how many Forums shut down due to traffics like this? Most of the reason why forums moved to Slack, Discord etc was that they no longer ha…
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#136One of my websites was absolutely destroyed by Meta's AI bot: Meta-ExternalAgent https://developers.facebook.com/docs/sharing/webmasters/web-... It seems a bit naive for some reason and doesn't do performance back-off the way I would expect from Google Bot. It just kept repeatedly requesting more and more until my server crashed, then it would back off for a minute and then request more again. My solution was to add…
Imagine being one of the monsters who works at Facebook and thinking you're not one of the evil ones.
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#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
I see a lot of traffic I can tell are bots based on the URL patterns they access. They do not include the "bot" user agent, and often use residential IP pools. I haven't found an easy way to block them. They nearly took out my site a few days ago too.
You could run all of your content through an LLM to create a twisted and purposely factually incorrect rendition of your data. Forward all AI bots to the junk copy. Everyone should start doing this. Once the AI companies engorge themselves on enough garbage and start to see a negative impact to their own products, they'll stop running up your traffic bills. Maybe you don't even need a full LLM. Just a simple transfor…
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#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, fortunately random hosts on the internet don’t get to write a letter and make something a crime.
Unless they're a big company in which case they can DMCA anything they want, and they get the benefit of the doubt.
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#139Re: AI companies cause most of traffic on forums
#140One of my websites was absolutely destroyed by Meta's AI bot: Meta-ExternalAgent https://developers.facebook.com/docs/sharing/webmasters/web-... It seems a bit naive for some reason and doesn't do performance back-off the way I would expect from Google Bot. It just kept repeatedly requesting more and more until my server crashed, then it would back off for a minute and then request more again. My solution was to add…
I wonder if it would work to send Meta's legal department a notice that they are not permitted to access your website. Would that make subsequent accesses be violations of the U.S.'s Computer Fraud and Abuse Act?
Depends how much money you are prepared to spend.