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Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by benatkin »

xrd wrote: post #80
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m really worried that we just elected a president who clearly fixates on short term gains rather than long term planning. Biden did not mess that up, even if he is a one term president like Carter. It is nice to have adults in control, even if that is increasingly politically untenable.

You said it better than I would have. Biden put a lot of smart people around him, and together they made many long term investments in states that overwhelmingly voted for Trump. He will be remembered differently than he is now.

It’s too bad Pete Buttigieg took the risk of unreservedly supporting Kamala and lost some credibility. I guess he didn’t think that urging people to pick her as the lesser of two evils would work, but she lost anyway, and now the Democratic Party is in an awkward place.

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Post by WalterBright »

wistlo wrote: post #236
WalterBright wrote: post #155

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As Reagan's first Executive Order, he repealed all oil and gas allocation and price controls. The chronic gas lines disappeared literally overnight, and never came back. I remember that day well.

Funny thing, I didn't any trouble finding gasoline on January 19, 1981.

There were gas allocations at the time, too. Those allocations resulted in a patchwork of gluts and shortages across the country.

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Post by bdangubic »

JasserInicide wrote: post #264
devin wrote: post #252

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The current infighting between republicans over H1Bs seems a counterexample.

Republicans have always been pro-immigrant because it's inherently pro-business. They just have to do a song and dance routine for the low IQ racist cohort of their constituency to make it seem like they're tough on it. Though I will say it's been rather amusing watching people act betrayed by Elon's thoughts on H1-B visa holders. Like, how did you idiots not see this coming? He's the richest person in the world for…

wait until they find out he is an immigrant… they are still processing vance is married to an indian and that vivek is not white…

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by [deleted] »

bwanab wrote: post #164
readthenotes1 wrote: post #71

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Look a little harder. The people living through the 1970s knew how bad he was and chose to put him out. He had bad staff, bad relations with the overwhelmingly Democratic Congress, and we got the Mayaguez, iran hostage, stagflation, and other troubles too many to list. He was a bad president, a good man, and a great ex-president.

While I disagree with your verdict, those are all valid points. I don't think stagflation can really be pinned on him, though.

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Post by matthewbauer »

readthenotes1 wrote: post #71
jmclnx wrote: post #20

Looking back, to me he was a much better president then people believed in the 80s. I believe if he got re-elected in 1980, the US would be in a much better place. One thing, it could be argued real work on Climate Change would have begun in 1981 as opposed to where we are now, which is just watching the average probably blowing past 3C in around 70 years from now. For his loss in 1980, I still blame Kennedy. RIP, he…

Look a little harder. The people living through the 1970s knew how bad he was and chose to put him out. He had bad staff, bad relations with the overwhelmingly Democratic Congress, and we got the Mayaguez, iran hostage, stagflation, and other troubles too many to list. He was a bad president, a good man, and a great ex-president.

Had never heard of “mayaguez” until now. It actually happened under President Ford not Carter.

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Post by krapp »

JasserInicide wrote: post #264
devin wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The current infighting between republicans over H1Bs seems a counterexample.

Republicans have always been pro-immigrant because it's inherently pro-business. They just have to do a song and dance routine for the low IQ racist cohort of their constituency to make it seem like they're tough on it. Though I will say it's been rather amusing watching people act betrayed by Elon's thoughts on H1-B visa holders. Like, how did you idiots not see this coming? He's the richest person in the world for…

They thought Elon was one of them because he's "anti-woke," just like they thought Trump was one of them because he "didn't talk like a politician."

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Post by sixothree »

llm_trw wrote: post #188
zeroonetwothree wrote: post #179

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Ironically he did more deregulation than Reagan yet somehow we don’t remember it that way. For his electoral loss it’s just that Carter was never interested in the political manoeuvring. He was never going to have a good chance.

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And you would deserve to be mocked for such a narrow and shallow observation.

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Post by bb88 »

sthuck wrote: post #251
bb88 wrote: post #96

His main achievement was and forever will be the Egypt/Israel peace agreement. This has lasted nearly 50 years, and the people who still have grievances will soon be dead in another few years.

look the peace is definitely an achievement and much much better than the alternative. But it's incredibly fragile peace held only the Egyptian Army control and Sisi's dictatorship. Most of the population still despises Israel, another revolution in Egypt and its a matter of time until there is another war. Now with western equipment for both sides!

> But it's incredibly fragile peace

Sure, arguably it's because the treatment of the Palestinians.

Unfortunately the last Israeli leader that attempted peace with the Palestinians was assassinated by someone who wanted conflict.

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Post by oh_my_goodness »

CalChris wrote: post #246
consumer451 wrote: post #206

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Blaming Kennedy is a take I hadn't heard before. I always gave the folks behind Reagan a lot of credit, as it is a historical fact that they conspired with a foreign power to hold the American hostages until after the election. > A Four-Decade Secret: One Man’s Story of Sabotaging Carter’s Re-election > A prominent Texas politician said he unwittingly took part in a 1980 tour of the Middle East with a clandestine age…

Blame John Anderson as well.

Maybe so. But Anderson also pulled votes from more-or-less Republicans who didn't believe Reagan's assertion that cutting taxes and increasing spending would narrow the deficit.

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Post by Vaslo »

jmclnx wrote: post #20

Looking back, to me he was a much better president then people believed in the 80s. I believe if he got re-elected in 1980, the US would be in a much better place. One thing, it could be argued real work on Climate Change would have begun in 1981 as opposed to where we are now, which is just watching the average probably blowing past 3C in around 70 years from now. For his loss in 1980, I still blame Kennedy. RIP, he…

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