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Amazing how this site's comments have been decaying in quality since a few years now. Obvious propaganda article, from a media that doesn't even try to hide that it's mainly a propaganda media, is commented on seriously without any kind of reality filter, and it gets to the top comments...
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yes the US has better rule of law and is an actual democracy, for sure. but China does not seem to be so bad by the standards that we hold our own allies to, so to me it is unclear why we have become locked into this neo cold war so quickly. some of our allies make china look like a saint in comparison
Which of our allies make China look like a saint?
The only authoritarian regimes not allied, nor neutral, with the US are Cuba, Iran, NK, Russia and Venezuela.
It's not present day but let's not forget the series of military genocidal dictarships supported, founded and allied by the US in south america in the second half of 20th century.
As a non-Chinese and a non-American, I care less about the usual geopolitical games, including spying, and more about how the Chinese government treats its own citizens. No freedom of speech or conscience, no political freedoms: just work and be an obedient small truckle in the mechanism of the Leviathan. Plus the return of the Cult of Personality, which once even the CCP tried to abandon, but ultimately failed. Thes…
Have you actually ever been to China or spoken with any Chinese people in China? (Not expats, but, say, taxi drivers and businessmen.) Frankly, they're practically as free as Americans and Europeans. In some respects they're more free. There's far less violent crime and property crime, too, so living in the city feels more free in ways which should be obvious -- women can walk around alone at night and not fear for t…
Says it all about your biases that you seriously think this is actually a dangerous proposition in terms of real statistical risk.
Amazing how this site's comments have been decaying in quality since a few years now. Obvious propaganda article, from a media that doesn't even try to hide that it's mainly a propaganda media, is commented on seriously without any kind of reality filter, and it gets to the top comments...
As a non-Chinese and a non-American, I care less about the usual geopolitical games, including spying, and more about how the Chinese government treats its own citizens. No freedom of speech or conscience, no political freedoms: just work and be an obedient small truckle in the mechanism of the Leviathan. Plus the return of the Cult of Personality, which once even the CCP tried to abandon, but ultimately failed. Thes…
Have you actually ever been to China or spoken with any Chinese people in China? (Not expats, but, say, taxi drivers and businessmen.) Frankly, they're practically as free as Americans and Europeans. In some respects they're more free. There's far less violent crime and property crime, too, so living in the city feels more free in ways which should be obvious -- women can walk around alone at night and not fear for t…
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The US government is a meandering blob of racoons in a trenchcoat. Occasionally a hand will _do_ evil but even odds whether they realize it or meant it. Partially depends on which particular raccoon is where. Some of the racoons are evil. China is actively directed by a small group of well coordinated, evil raccoons. See, you know, the constant genocide.
Yes. This is really exactly my take, too. The US Government has done incredibly stupid and catastrophically foolish and harmful things - being hoodwinked into Vietnam by the French, for example - but the Government is not inherently, actually evil, in any way, shape or form. This is not the case for China.
The Myth of American Idealism https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/738224/the-myth-of-...
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Except, there were communist infiltration plans in the 1950s. The same as theres coordinated russian plans supporting conservative nationalists. If you want rational protectionism, America would need to stop treating businesses as the unit of concern and enact stronger worker privacy and consumer protections. The same way CIA backdoors are intrinsic unsafe, so are lax employee and consumer protections.
Just like how QAnon is obsessed with satanic pedophile rings that don't really exist, despite the existence of pedophile rings being real, because they don't actually care about child abuse as much as accelerating mistrust of and harassment against the LGBTQ community by implying any non-heterosexual identity is equivalent to pedophilia. A stopped clock is still right twice a day.
If it's rational to mistrust foreigners because they might be spies, history suggests it's just as rational to mistrust the motives of people who spread fear and uncertainty about nefarious enemies within. Americans have far more to fear from their own government's attempts to grasp for power than they do from Chinese spies.
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Yeah I also share this experience, pretty much every Chinese person I know will not hesitate to stress how much discrimination has affected everything about their lives abroad, especially education and careers. Its worth noting how little attention comparable "activities" from "good" countries like Israel or Saudi Arabia get, even when they're turning journalists into barbecue in foreign embassies, illegally installi…
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Yeah I also share this experience, pretty much every Chinese person I know will not hesitate to stress how much discrimination has affected everything about their lives abroad, especially education and careers. Its worth noting how little attention comparable "activities" from "good" countries like Israel or Saudi Arabia get, even when they're turning journalists into barbecue in foreign embassies, illegally installi…
It's a problem of their own making. While it's not true that 100% of Chinese nationals are involved in spying, it's correct to think there's a highly likelihood of someone coming from there to be involved. If you don't want to be treated like habitual spies and thiefs then maybe don't engage in spying and thievery habitually and the problem is easily solved.
Side note, surely you understand how indefensible it is to say "well maybe not 100% of this nationality is bad, but if they didn't want a hard time then the heads of their undemocratic state shouldn't be doing such and such"? Would it be ok if I denied you jobs and called you a thief for the wrongs your government likely has done? (a government which you're also far more likely to be responsible for)
Don't most countries do this? I am pretty sure the US has lots of spies everywhere and they spy on allies (famously on Angela Merkel's phone) and enemies. Israel spies on other countries including the US. Does China do anything differently?
Does CIA recruit US citizens living abroad into spying for the US?