shouldn't EU also investigate this a little?
We've not been trained for this: life after the Newag DRM disclosure [video]
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#22There must be strong punishment for frivolous lawsuits. This company is entirely in the wrong and the execs should be in prison, but instead they are wasting time and money with the copyright and other bullshit, trying to demotivate and distract the researchers.
This "company" is strongly connected with previous government and their prime minister Mateusz Morawiecki (company owner is his close colleague), they work more like organized crime than legal entity copying the Russians. Sometimes, but not often, they even make some assassinations and I'm afraid it may be so in this case. There was a female deputy Magdalena Biejat, now a president candidate, who was trying to make s…
It was MPs from both parties: Adamczyk (PiS) and Sowa (PO) who opposed the investigation[0].
When it comes to "helping the business" both parties act the same way.
[0] https://www.wnp.pl/logistyka/chca-by-sprawa-newagu-zajely-si...
Re: We've not been trained for this: life after the Newag DRM disclosure [video]
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
Polish person here, as far as I understand, our SLAPP protections are basically nonexistent, which is why this is allowed to happen. In the US, a lawsuit like this would never fly.
In the USA there are many lawsuits and they could bankrupt you just by making a painful discovery. Though Poland needs to modernize it's law.
A reminder that Musk was willing to spend $44b rather than go through discovery in a civil lawsuit. That should tell you something about how fucked the system is.
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
:( Feels like the money is flowing into multiple directions.
I think it's a case where money / influence may indeed be flowing in both directions, but fundamentally the trains are working. Unless they experience the International Compressor Failure Day, or randomly clip GPS coordinates of a "dead zone" and simply refuse to move forward - but that just means some money hadn't flown where some crooked people expected it to flow. One thing that is unclear to me is who is backing…
These things are pretty random and don't usually align with party boundaries. Train lovers / open source / hacker communities are marginal interests groups. If a MP is from the region where the factory is - he might support it just because of that. Morawiecki famously has close friends in Newag board and PIS as a whole is on the Newag side it seems.
Razem has Paulina Matysiak who is a big train nerd so she's on the right side of this issue, but for a few decades the biggest supporter of hacking/open source culture in Poland was PSL's Waldemar Pawlak (he even organized Linux conferences in Palace of Culture :) ). I only found out when I attended one such conference in late 2000s and he had a presentation about Linux/Open Source in administration. It did not seem to turn the whole PSL into open source supporters and their image of backward/naive farmers certainly doesn't match with that.
Whenever there's some politicized case parties switch sides depending on temporary interests (see protests against ACTA back in 2011 vs PIS defending their Pegasus affair and spying on opposition members and journalists in 2060-2022).
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the USA there are many lawsuits and they could bankrupt you just by making a painful discovery. Though Poland needs to modernize it's law.
A reminder that Musk was willing to spend $44b rather than go through discovery in a civil lawsuit. That should tell you something about how fucked the system is.
Well, but Musk was going to loose anyway. His options were:
- Pay $44 billion.
- Pay $44 billion and go through Discovery.
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#27shouldn't EU also investigate this a little?
The EU is not a federal government. It can investigate only if there is misuse of EU budget money or the country government is breaching it's union obligations. Otherwise, the country aligns its laws to the common european framework and then the country government is responsible for investigating when someone breaks those laws.
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#28Newag, the company from the presentation is still getting fat government contracts: https://en.railmarket.com/news/rolling-stock/25459-newag-s-g...
They can’t be banned from participating in public tenders without due process. Tenders tend to have the price as the most important factor in choosing the winner.
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#29shouldn't EU also investigate this a little?
The EU is not a federal government. It can investigate only if there is misuse of EU budget money or the country government is breaching it's union obligations. Otherwise, the country aligns its laws to the common european framework and then the country government is responsible for investigating when someone breaks those laws.
It's VERY unlikely EU funds were never involved. Public transport and transport infrastructure is often incentivized with public money, usually with EU participation. It's hard to find big projects that had 0 EU funding.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
A reminder that Musk was willing to spend $44b rather than go through discovery in a civil lawsuit. That should tell you something about how fucked the system is.
Well, but Musk was going to loose anyway. His options were: - Pay $44 billion. - Pay $44 billion and go through Discovery.
Option C). Pay 1 billion to keep the lawsuit going forever.