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Re: Ask HN: Are you unable to find employment?

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Post by devops99 »

bruce511 wrote: post #418
w4ffl35 wrote: post #302

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> Social Security and Medicare are unpopular to cut, but its easily done, and a necessity to make significant cuts. I think the electorate has given a mandate to the govt to do this, do I expect they'll do it. (Trump campaigned on this, so its pretty much what people clearly want.) Can you please point me to Trump campaigning on this? I heard him say the exact opposite repeatedly in his speeches at his rallies.

Trump lies all the time. So what he says and what he campaigns on are different things. He says he is pro-women (but acts the opposite) pro-US (but sources all his grift from China), says he wants to bring down prices (but plans on tarifs to raise them). He claims no affiliation to Project 25 (but then hires all those planners into key positions), claims to be pro-worker, but eliminates labor protections and gives ta…

> Trump lies all the time.

Of course the politician does this, but if you think this somehow granted you carte blanche to write out of your ass you are a special kind of delusional.

Re: Ask HN: Are you unable to find employment?

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Post by dzonga »

m_ke wrote: post #86

It's not just you. I have an Ivy league degree, worked in deep learning since alexnet at a leading startup in the space, was a CTO of a startup that got acquired and have referrals from very senior people at the top FANG companies and still struggled to get interviews. I also have research scientist friends with Neurips papers, ones that solved long standing open math problems and even they are struggling to get hire…

forget the faang companies - but just your rank and file VC funded startup - series b and up. most software engineering jobs are either in poland, india.

so yeah ya'll folks are not hallucinating - jobs are gone.

e.g https://www.rippling.com/en-GB/careers/open-roles - engineering. majority of non-staff roles in india with staff roles in the US.

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Post by maeil »

MrMan wrote: post #229
w4ffl35 wrote: post #193

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It sounds like those in Denmark who are rejoicing over this are also anti-globalization, so its a win for everyone then.

Being anti globalization means everyone loses which you will find out more about soon

As I've explained here [1], when it comes to this topic (software), this take is on the level of "trickle-down economics". A good dose of protectionism means most people benefit, a very clear net positive for society as a whole.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42535968

Re: Ask HN: Are you unable to find employment?

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Post by maeil »

EliBullockPapa wrote: post #266
maeil wrote: post #182

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Software ones? Absolutely. Companies selling physical goods lead to a decent amount of jobs in every country they operate in by definition. Not so for software. It is US big tech who has for a decade or 2 reaped enormous benefits from extracting large sums of money from non-US economies while contributing near-zero back to those economies (often not just near-zero but straight up deeply negative amounts due to extern…

What do you mean? Only way I can think of is social media advertising revenue going to big tech instead of local media. But a net negative effect on non-US economies seems hard to believe.

Every euro/yen/.. spent by German/Japanese/.. residents on US tech is one that goes to big tech. Every minute spent consuming US tech (Meta et al) is one spent not consuming something that benefits local society.

Enormous net negative, and I'm lucky enough to be part of the poster child society that shows just how much better the alternative is: South Korea. And even here people still use lots of US tech (Instagram is huge), just much less of it, in every case at massive net benefit to Korean society as a whole.

Re: Ask HN: Are you unable to find employment?

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Post by thatcat »

krapp wrote: post #373
thatcat wrote: post #352

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why would an american with a high cost of living (result of policy choices) be expected to work for a mexican wage? ill work for a mexican wage when i have a mexican cost of living, end of.

>why would an american with a high cost of living (result of policy choices) be expected to work for a mexican wage? Because they're competing against Mexicans who will do the job at that wage, and probably automation and AI, and there is no universe in which American companies simply decide to spend more on local labor without commensurate benefit. It isn't any American employers' problem that the market has determi…

Perhaps the company should relocate to india or mexico and enjoy their infrastructure, labor, crime, and culture as a single package. Did you already forget crowdstrike? How much did that cost? Seems like your numbers are missing the tail end risks of reducing standards because that is an externality. Maybe that's why immigration law isn't suppose to be written by companies.

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Post by sunshine-o »

bruce511 wrote: post #420
sunshine-o wrote: post #360

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> They would’ve outsourced regardless of remote or not. Absolutely > It’s all about cost. Yes and No... What is happening now in "tech" has happened before in other industries. Since the internet various service industries have outsourced, outshored, nearshored over and over all together and in different order. I would put immigration or even move to the public cloud in that bag of schemes. Unless those are very low…

An interesting take. Seen from the viewpoint of the worker I can see why blaming management has appeal. Of course your argument leads to two conclusions; A) given how badly these companies are managed, and how it will be cheaper in the long run to make use of local talent, the market must be ready for a new wave of companies that rise up. Certainly (it would seem) the local workers are available, and ready to work. C…

This is not the viewpoint of the worker. Especially because it kind of put a political frame on it.

I have implemented those cost reduction programs over and over in many industries. I can assure you we always know it is gonna cost more than just doing things right. The problem is there is a lot of bad incentives, people saving their skins and and a whole industry making money out of those cost reduction programs. They are now permanent in many industries and became the standard way to manage those companies.

I would agree with your two conclusions, this is the logical way it "should" go.

Now reality is for most of the big players it probably won't go that way. For example I expect the hyperscalers to go the way telcos went. They have the power (financial, political & co) to freeze their position in the market and they are now a critical part of our infrastructure. But working for them or keeping their stock in the last 20 years was probably a very bad move.

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Post by nicbou »

missedthecue wrote: post #138
nicbou wrote: post #53

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It was on everyone’s lips for a few years, to the point that it had become the placeholder for the entire meme. The short version is that there is a shortage of skilled workers that absolutely requires immigrants to fill the gaps. However when you look around there isn’t really a shortage; people just aren’t willing to work for little pay. The English term implies that there is an actual shortage. It might please you…

Does this imply that people would rather be broke than work for less pay than they want? How are they paying rent each month?

Unemployment benefits cover 60% of your income for up to 12 months. It’s more sensible to find another appropriate job than to work in a low wage job.

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Post by fabianholzer »

nicbou wrote: post #53
brtkdotse wrote: post #33

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> Fachkräftemangel Why is this German word thrown in without any explanation? I’ve noticed this is a common trend whenever a Germany-adjacent topic is discussed.

It was on everyone’s lips for a few years, to the point that it had become the placeholder for the entire meme. The short version is that there is a shortage of skilled workers that absolutely requires immigrants to fill the gaps. However when you look around there isn’t really a shortage; people just aren’t willing to work for little pay. The English term implies that there is an actual shortage. It might please you…

It's being used in the German political discourse since at least the first term of the Schröder government in the late 1990es, which is about where I started following the news and politics more closely. It has been used cynically as justification for every thinkable cut into the social system ever since, from lobbying against a minimum wage to moving up the retirement age. You won't find many people, except for politicians and lobbyists, that'll still use the term unironically. It seems there are remarkable parallels on the other side of the Atlantic ocean.

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Post by kragen »

throwaway284534 wrote: post #342
irvingprime wrote: post #209

The longest period of unemployment I've ever experienced ended about 6 months ago. I was unemployed for 11 months. The company that finally hired me was intentionally targeting people with lots of experience. I have that. They also pay less than I used to make but I took it because I needed a job. Previous to that period of unemployment, my resume tended to get noticed. I got interviews from 3 applications out of 5.…

If it’s any consolation, I haven’t gotten any favors as a trans woman, even with “passing privilege.” Both myself and the cis women in tech I know all hear the same thing: companies are tipping the scales to favor diversity hires. But in truth it seems to be a marketing tactic rather than a hiring strategy. It’s quite bizarre at all levels — I often receive invitations from recruiters to apply to “women led startups”…

> The more passable I became, the less experienced I was perceived by my peers. And worse, what was once thought of as confident display of technical ability is now seen as a lack of demure.

This is very valuable information, thank you. Most of us only ever have the chance to experience the situation from the vantage point of one gender. Are you in the US, or what?

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