Trump sides with Musk on support for H-1B visas for foreign tech workers
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Re: Trump sides with Musk on support for H-1B visas for foreign tech workers
#2Wonder what people think about this on both or multiple sides of the equation.
Re: Trump sides with Musk on support for H-1B visas for foreign tech workers
#3There is legit use of H-1B, which helps make America the leader in tech. Top tech companies like Google, Microsoft, Apple and Amazon would not be top tech companies without this immigration.
Then there are abusers... for example back in 2016 Disney hired a bunch of H-1B workers and immediately laid off American workers, and then required those American workers to train their H-1B replacements.
The abuse must be stopped, it hurts everyone. The legit use must be encouraged, and expanded -- it makes America strong, and creates jobs.
Re: Trump sides with Musk on support for H-1B visas for foreign tech workers
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Re: Trump sides with Musk on support for H-1B visas for foreign tech workers
#5There is legit use of H-1B, which helps make America the leader in tech. Top tech companies like Google, Microsoft, Apple and Amazon would not be top tech companies without this immigration. Then there are abusers... for example back in 2016 Disney hired a bunch of H-1B workers and immediately laid off American workers, and then required those American workers to train their H-1B replacements. The abuse must be stopp…
there is very little legit use of H1B, the tech companies are abusing it by not hiring US employees in lieu of getting underpaid H1B’s who have no option to leave for a better opportunity or higher pay (or to unionize) - modern day white collar “slavery”
Re: Trump sides with Musk on support for H-1B visas for foreign tech workers
#6Wonder what people think about this on both or multiple sides of the equation.
People say this has upset Trump supporters who are supposedly "anti-immigration" but most of the Trump supporters I know are immigrants and nobody has a major problem with this.
Re: Trump sides with Musk on support for H-1B visas for foreign tech workers
#7There is legit use of H-1B, which helps make America the leader in tech. Top tech companies like Google, Microsoft, Apple and Amazon would not be top tech companies without this immigration. Then there are abusers... for example back in 2016 Disney hired a bunch of H-1B workers and immediately laid off American workers, and then required those American workers to train their H-1B replacements. The abuse must be stopp…
there is very little legit use of H1B, the tech companies are abusing it by not hiring US employees in lieu of getting underpaid H1B’s who have no option to leave for a better opportunity or higher pay (or to unionize) - modern day white collar “slavery”
The customer (companies) don’t think the price for US employees is a good deal and prefer to find a cheaper option that can’t quit as easily.
In market terms, H1B workers are simply a better product - slightly cheaper (because companies can game the system) and more predictable (because they can’t show the employer the middle finger).
Re: Trump sides with Musk on support for H-1B visas for foreign tech workers
#8Wonder what people think about this on both or multiple sides of the equation.
People say this has upset Trump supporters who are supposedly "anti-immigration" but most of the Trump supporters I know are immigrants and nobody has a major problem with this.
I know a lot of Trump supporters who are nice people, but I also know a great many that are overt racists. It’s never against me (they make the point they aren’t against “people like me”) but there is always a group they don’t like - other Latin Americans (I’m from Brazil, but they also are usually surprised when they learn that), Middle-Eastern, Indians, and, lately, Chinese (and others, because they can’t tell the difference).
Re: Trump sides with Musk on support for H-1B visas for foreign tech workers
#9There is legit use of H-1B, which helps make America the leader in tech. Top tech companies like Google, Microsoft, Apple and Amazon would not be top tech companies without this immigration. Then there are abusers... for example back in 2016 Disney hired a bunch of H-1B workers and immediately laid off American workers, and then required those American workers to train their H-1B replacements. The abuse must be stopp…
there is very little legit use of H1B, the tech companies are abusing it by not hiring US employees in lieu of getting underpaid H1B’s who have no option to leave for a better opportunity or higher pay (or to unionize) - modern day white collar “slavery”
Here are the folks who contributed to the "Attention is all you need" paper [1] which changed the world as we know it, and the countries they came from. I rest my case.
Ashish Vaswani: India
Noam Shazeer: USA
Niki Parmar: India
Jakob Uszkoreit: Germany
Llion Jones: USA
Aidan Gomez: British Canadian
Lukasz Kaiser: Poland
Illia Polosukhin: Ukraine
Re: Trump sides with Musk on support for H-1B visas for foreign tech workers
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
there is very little legit use of H1B, the tech companies are abusing it by not hiring US employees in lieu of getting underpaid H1B’s who have no option to leave for a better opportunity or higher pay (or to unionize) - modern day white collar “slavery”
Here are the folks who contributed to the "Attention is all you need" paper [1] which changed the world as we know it, and the countries they came from. I rest my case. Ashish Vaswani: India Noam Shazeer: USA Niki Parmar: India Jakob Uszkoreit: Germany Llion Jones: USA Aidan Gomez: British Canadian Lukasz Kaiser: Poland Illia Polosukhin: Ukraine [1] https://arxiv.org/abs/1706.03762
“rest your case” is too funny… this is 8 people, what about 63,992 other yearly recipients of this visa? what an compeling argument you are making (and this is former H1B-er writing here…)