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Re: Casual Viewing – Why Netflix looks like that

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Yet you watch these instead of the ones with "soul". Seems to me they provide what the market wants.

My wife chooses the Netflix ones unfortunately. What ones are good?

Are you asking in general which recent (past few years) movies were good? Or movies on Netflix? Or Netflix productions?

Re: Casual Viewing – Why Netflix looks like that

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It’s just slop par excellence. I’ve been watching a number of movies with my wife over Christmas. Everything is so bland, repetitive and ‘design by committee’. It goes further than merely announcing what the characters are doing (in that new wannabe Die Hard movie we hear that they are expecting a baby three times in 5 minutes), you just know there are certain metrics used for every genre of movie accounting for ever…

I think the best modern productions are now the series rather than the films as there's so much more time to tell the story and have room for characters to breathe etc. Just look at the artistry and story-telling skill displayed in both seasons of Arcane - there's so many brilliant examples of "showing, not telling" on display there. As a counter-example, I enjoyed watching the "Flow" film the other day - an animated…

I don't doubt that, but from what I've been reading Arcane is notorious for having songs in the background exactly describing the action onscreen.

Re: Casual Viewing – Why Netflix looks like that

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By the downvote I suspect you find this description of inattention, or chores, offensive. How is that, the complete inability to focus and the emotional hostility you imagine about it, not a form of ADHD?

I dunno, I like to listen to the radio when I'm driving, am I exhibiting ADHD or Autistic related behaviour?

I think that listening to radio while driving is less of an indication of autistic behavior than thinking that someone listening to the radio is exhibiting autistic behavior.

Re: Casual Viewing – Why Netflix looks like that

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It’s just slop par excellence. I’ve been watching a number of movies with my wife over Christmas. Everything is so bland, repetitive and ‘design by committee’. It goes further than merely announcing what the characters are doing (in that new wannabe Die Hard movie we hear that they are expecting a baby three times in 5 minutes), you just know there are certain metrics used for every genre of movie accounting for ever…

I think the best modern productions are now the series rather than the films as there's so much more time to tell the story and have room for characters to breathe etc. Just look at the artistry and story-telling skill displayed in both seasons of Arcane - there's so many brilliant examples of "showing, not telling" on display there. As a counter-example, I enjoyed watching the "Flow" film the other day - an animated…

Maybe 5 years ago but can't say I agree any more. Netflix in particular stretches 2-hour scripts into 10-hour limited series. I'm trying to watch Black Doves right now and continually get bored at how much exposition and background there is. There was clearly a tight, fun script in there somewhere before the committee performed surgery on it. I don't need everything explored and explained to death, give me something with rhythm instead.

Re: Casual Viewing – Why Netflix looks like that

#127

Streaming with a subscription is fundamentally a bad thing for cinema, especially when combined with the streamer also producing content. That's because it shifts the optimized variable from quality of individual movie/show to maximum time spent on platform. But the latter can accept the lowering of the quality of individual movies, so you get a regression towards average instead of a striving for excellence. Never p…

> maximum time spent on platform

Not even that, they optimize for acquiring and keeping subscribers. They gain nothing from you watching movies, it is just costing them bandwidth, at least on their ad-free plan, which was the only option until recently. It is completely different from YouTube and TikTok, or even oldschool TV, which get most of their revenue from ads.

They need a few good ones to attract new subscribers, and they do. Stranger Things and Squid Games are really good. For the rest, they just need enough content for people not to cancel their subscriptions.

If you want to encourage quality production, just subscribe for the month they are doing something good, ad-free of course, then unsubscribe. Many people are doing that, and maybe that's what it takes to get them to change their strategy. Maybe not for the better though.

Re: Casual Viewing – Why Netflix looks like that

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You can't do 100% "show, don't tell" unless your movie is 15 hours long. It's always about balance, and it's probably one of the hardest challenges in scriptwriting and directing. Netflix movies have always leaned more toward the "tell" side, and this feels like an open acknowledgment of it. Small digression: Turkish series have been doing an extreme version of "telling" for ages. I've been watching the cheesiest one…

> You can't do 100% "show, don't tell" unless your movie is 15 hours long

You most certainly can, though it relies on trusting the audience.

Flow (2024)

Sasquatch Sunset (2024)

Hundreds of Beavers (2022)

Re: Casual Viewing – Why Netflix looks like that

#129

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That you're having ""ADHD"" toward the show, not that you have it by wanting a show.

Well then the comment chain was clearer to you than me, because I read the last two comments as 1) a defense of watching shows while doing chores and 2) a criticism of doing that, implying that it’s a lack of focus on doing the chore

I suspect the confusion is the concept of white noise. Some people can focus on some form media and a work/chore equally at the same such that neither is background noise. I enjoy playing music while I drive or doing dishes only because I enjoy the music. The work effort is accomplished in the same time with the same quality either way, but some people need the background noise to help focus on what would otherwise be a slow and painful effort marked by continuous interruption and slipping precision.

That is the distinction of ADHD. Self reflection, the bit about offense, is important because for the person without attention disruption there isn’t a performance difference to reflect upon, but for other people there is an issue of concern.

Re: Casual Viewing – Why Netflix looks like that

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My wife chooses the Netflix ones unfortunately. What ones are good?

Some that I've enjoyed recently (or rewatched): Good One (2024) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt30319516/ Strange Darling (2023) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt22375054/ The Creator (2023) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11858890/ The Night House (2020) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9731534/ The Empty Man (2020) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5867314/ Possessor (2020) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5918982/ Booksmart (2019) https…

Wow, great to see The Fall is on Mubi. That's one I had to pirate as it wasn't available anywhere.
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