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Re: Blackcandy: Self hosted music streaming server

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Post by Ntrails »

r3trohack3r wrote: post #254
paxys wrote: post #253

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In hindsight it is crazy that tiny iPods from the early-mid 00s had 120-160 GB storage, more than what a flagship $1000 iPhone starts with twenty years later . Yes they used HDDs, but for media consumption it didn't really matter. And then when Apple switched to flash storage we took a massive step back to 1/2/4 GB with outrageous premiums for extra capacity.

I remember reading articles at the time running the numbers on what it would cost to legally fill an OG iPod with mp3s at $0.99 a song or $9.99 an album. My memory is fuzzy but I remember it being something like $15,000 to fill an iPod legally with music from iTunes. Many articles concluded that the device was speced for piracy. I don’t think the storage size was reduced for technical reasons. I suspect a lot of back…

I think my parents owned order magnitude 500 cds. Something like 150mb per album in mp3 format gets you to, what, ~75gig?

I doubt they were outliers? Nobody I know filled their players with itunes bought music, almost everyone was importing from physical back catalogues. I will concede that we did subsequently share our collections somewhat though...

Re: Blackcandy: Self hosted music streaming server

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Post by antihero »

jesterson wrote: post #280
antihero wrote: post #159

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Because: * You don't have any control, if some paperwork fucks up you can lose access (rarer with music but very common with video services) * They don't have a lot of rare stuff, demos, EPs, singles, dubplates, etc. * You can't choose which version of an album you want. * If you run out of money for whatever reason you can't listen to music. * Offline is unreliable. * Screw having my taste and discovery defined by a…

To add to this - as someone who is traveling a lot, multiple issues with it saying "Ohh you can't play in this country so I will just stop working" are annoying to say the least. Dumped spotify and couldn't been happier.

Yeah crazy when you offline music on Apple Music and then you have no internet and it won’t play them because it needs internet to (I guess?) check the license still. Absolute joke.

Re: Blackcandy: Self hosted music streaming server

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Post by lazylizard »

raheelrjunaid wrote: post #248
paxys wrote: post #227

I have tried every music playing option under the sun for the last 15 years and am now happily back to creating playlists on my computer and periodically dragging them to my phone's local storage. There is still no better overall experience.

Same! I use syncthing-fork to automate the process: https://github.com/Catfriend1/syncthing-android

isn't syncthing on android dead?

https://forum.syncthing.net/t/discontinuing-syncthing-androi...

Re: Blackcandy: Self hosted music streaming server

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Post by callahad »

Ntrails wrote: post #291
r3trohack3r wrote: post #254

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember reading articles at the time running the numbers on what it would cost to legally fill an OG iPod with mp3s at $0.99 a song or $9.99 an album. My memory is fuzzy but I remember it being something like $15,000 to fill an iPod legally with music from iTunes. Many articles concluded that the device was speced for piracy. I don’t think the storage size was reduced for technical reasons. I suspect a lot of back…

I think my parents owned order magnitude 500 cds. Something like 150mb per album in mp3 format gets you to, what, ~75gig? I doubt they were outliers? Nobody I know filled their players with itunes bought music, almost everyone was importing from physical back catalogues. I will concede that we did subsequently share our collections somewhat though...

You're probably looking at half that (~80 MB) per album for how normal people would've been ripping twenty years ago, so around 40 GB for 500 CDs. Contemporaneous forum post: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/comparison-compression-setti...

Re: Blackcandy: Self hosted music streaming server

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Post by jerf »

callahad wrote: post #294
Ntrails wrote: post #291

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think my parents owned order magnitude 500 cds. Something like 150mb per album in mp3 format gets you to, what, ~75gig? I doubt they were outliers? Nobody I know filled their players with itunes bought music, almost everyone was importing from physical back catalogues. I will concede that we did subsequently share our collections somewhat though...

You're probably looking at half that (~80 MB) per album for how normal people would've been ripping twenty years ago, so around 40 GB for 500 CDs. Contemporaneous forum post: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/comparison-compression-setti...

Yeah, I spec'd 256kb/s to be conservative and to head off audiophiles screaming about 128kb/s MP3s at the pass, but 128kb/s is quite common, and turns 512GB into a year straight, 24/7, of music. I feel like that for all but basically a pathological pirate who is not listening to everything they're pirating at that point, this really ought to be enough that most people don't need to "subset" their collection for their phone anymore.

At my personal collection of 30GB, I don't need a server anymore, self-hosted or otherwise. I just put copies of it wherever I want it, and it's part of my backup set.

Re: Blackcandy: Self hosted music streaming server

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Post by lakomen »

LorenDB wrote: post #148
lakomen wrote: post #110

Hmm.. I have a different use case. There are 7 years of a radio show with daily recordings of about 2-3 hours in length, including images. About 400GB in size. It used to all be hosted on a heavily ad plastered Drupal site, but I took it down a few years ago, because reasons. I would like to make the archive available to the public, it would be such a waste to delete it. When I write available, I mean via a website.…

Funkwhale should support this. You might even be able to set up the show to present itself as a podcast.

thank you

Re: Blackcandy: Self hosted music streaming server

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Post by partomniscient »

throwaway2037 wrote: post #142
pimeys wrote: post #84

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Yep. Same with Plex. I used to run it with 1.2 GHz dual core Intel Atom. I always encode to 128 kbps Opus when I stream my music and I'm not on Wi-Fi. It took about 300-500ms until the music started when I pressed play. The CPU usage was very low even when actively encoding. The only thing that takes a bit more of CPU is if you have a huge music collection (I have about 2.5 TB), and you do the first metadata and albu…

> Otherwise you can run these systems with a potato. Crikey: This gave me a laugh like none other in a while. For anyone else who doesn't get the reference, you can build a very basic battery from a potato, e.g., https://stemgeneration.org/potato-power/ Now, I would love to see a YouTube video where someone tries to power a portable music player from a battery. Could a PiZero be done?

For extra entredre points try and get it to run on this release [1].

[1] https://wiki.debian.org/DebianPotato

Re: Blackcandy: Self hosted music streaming server

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Post by fivestones »

pluc wrote: post #141

I use mpd and ncmpcpp but arguably I don't need much in terms of features, I just play all the things on shuffle. No point in using my phone as when I'm on the LAN, I don't need it, and when I'm out of it, it's counter productive to connect to it (because Canada still has third world mobile data rates) and better off replicating the entire library on-device.

In Nepal I pay $4.38 per month for 60 GB of 4G mobile data.

Re: Blackcandy: Self hosted music streaming server

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Post by jesterson »

Tallain wrote: post #281
jesterson wrote: post #279

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Sam here. I used to have huge library of MP3 tracks to listen while driving, but as car multimedia systems evolve, now I pull music videos from youtube and enjoy "selfhosted" VH1 (for those who know). Too sad modern VH1 is a shadow of it's past, broadcasting stupid shows instead of great music (please allow me to be a grumpy uncle here). This approach requires way lot more space (even if I pull videos in 1024x768, wh…

So I understand correctly, you're watching music videos in your car while you drive?

> So I understand correctly, you're watching music videos in your car while you drive?

Yes, that's correct. Love doing it.

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