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Germany Opened Its Doors to Migrants. Now It's Struggling to Cope

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Re: Germany Opened Its Doors to Migrants. Now It's Struggling to Cope

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https://archive.is/juJ4C "In the U.S., migrants seeking asylum typically receive no federal aid, but they are permitted to work once they submit their applications. In Germany, they aren’t generally allowed to work until they are officially deemed refugees, which can take months or even years. But they are entitled to benefits worth as much as hundreds or thousands of euros a month..."

To be frank, being poor in Germany is 10 times better than being poor in the US.

We don’t want to live like in the US.

Re: Germany Opened Its Doors to Migrants. Now It's Struggling to Cope

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https://archive.is/juJ4C "In the U.S., migrants seeking asylum typically receive no federal aid, but they are permitted to work once they submit their applications. In Germany, they aren’t generally allowed to work until they are officially deemed refugees, which can take months or even years. But they are entitled to benefits worth as much as hundreds or thousands of euros a month..."

We have a similar issue in the UK. The government has refused to provide enough resources to process the backlog of asylum applications, so people are left in limbo being housed in hotels with no legal rights to work or anything. It costs way more than just processing their applications and allowing them to work, but the government are too scared of looking 'soft on immigration'. And these hotels are often in poor an…

One told me that he worked since age 8. Not being allowed to work put him in a completely alien position. On top he was now living from other people's money, like children, old people, handicapped or sick. He was enraged by it.

He kept repeating I've worked 7 days for 30 years, I don't know how to sit on a sofa the whole day. He was getting weak, lost appetite, couldn't sleep. Every day was supposed to be a challenge rewarded with food for your family and a warm bed.

He was 3 months into the process and was clearly going insane.

The real problem is that there are several contradicting ideas at play. You can help people but you do have to employ and tax them asap. If we can't do the work the conveyor belt must slow down. You can house people but you do still have to house everyone. You can't help people by giving them other people's houses. You can assimilate people but speed and quality decline at scale.

You can tax to death and shut down social gathering, clubs, pubs, restaurants and libraries to prevent people from organizing against your sinister agenda but your assimilation capacity will greatly suffer. You must choose one.

How many natives get angry should also play a big role. Angry people are poor assimilators.

There is also a national security angle. If foreign parties want to organize a civil war for you you don't have to make it incredibly cheap and easy. To much nationalism is an ugly thing but the opposite can end the country.

Re: Germany Opened Its Doors to Migrants. Now It's Struggling to Cope

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Germany welcomed people from war torn countries(Syria) not just to help them but also to grow economy. Its a good gesture other European countries should replicate it for better future.

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This one is weird though. In a touch of irony the guy was aggressively anti-immigration.

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Germany welcomed people from war torn countries(Syria) not just to help them but also to grow economy. Its a good gesture other European countries should replicate it for better future.

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This guy was from Saudi Arabia, not Syria.

Re: Germany Opened Its Doors to Migrants. Now It's Struggling to Cope

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Germany welcomed people from war torn countries(Syria) not just to help them but also to grow economy. Its a good gesture other European countries should replicate it for better future.

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completely unrelated to Syria, was from Saudi Arabia, was aggressively against immigration - essentially a far right afd supporter

Re: Germany Opened Its Doors to Migrants. Now It's Struggling to Cope

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Brexit happened because the racists thought EU was stealing their money. in reality its the other way around. Has the illegal immigration into Britain stopped since Brexit?

Britain is better off with brexit than if it had stayed. People voted for brexit because they wanted to determine their (british) future and not be tied to the eu. Brexit was never delivered as promised because the vote was only given because they thought that it would fail. Immigration (economic migration) again is the fault of the government bowing down to the echr rules that it actually does not need to. Europe is…

Its not what the people want its what the elites want. And the Elites want cheap labour which means immigration. The Elites (the ones who favoured Brexit) wanted Brexit because they could write their own rules regarding a lot of things; all to favour their class not the working class.

Immigration was a handy tool with which to entice the working class to vote for Brexit.

Immigration never stopped. It just switched from cheap Eastern European Labour to African and Middle Eastern cheap labour.

Once again the Working Class got duped. They voted for it.

Re: Germany Opened Its Doors to Migrants. Now It's Struggling to Cope

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completely unrelated to Syria, was from Saudi Arabia, was aggressively against immigration - essentially a far right afd supporter

Yes, but the Christmas Market attack in Berlin in 2016 was committed by a jihadi.

Re: Germany Opened Its Doors to Migrants. Now It's Struggling to Cope

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This one is weird though. In a touch of irony the guy was aggressively anti-immigration.

Either it was deep cover or the guy is mentally ill.

What was his thought process? "I'm an anti-jihadi so I'll commit an act associated with jihadi's to discredit them" And steer your vehicle towards kids?

If he truly is anti-jihadi he must be mentally ill to do something like this.

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