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Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by wkat4242 »

bobjordan wrote: post #86
projectileboy wrote: post #57

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Would you be willing to elaborate on the ways in which the $200/month subscription is better than the $20/month subscription? I’m genuinely curious - not averse to paying more, depending on the value.

Here's why I think it's worth it: 1. Larger Context Window (128K) With Pro-Mode, I can paste an entire firmware file—thousands of lines of code—along with detailed hardware references, and the model can actually process it. This isn’t possible with the smaller context window on the $20 tier. On the Pro plan, I’ve pasted like 30+ pages of MCU datasheet information plus multiple header files in a single go. The model i…

How much context do you get on the $20 plan? I run llama3 at home which technically does 128k but that eats vram like crazy so I can't go further than 80k before I fill it (and that is with the KV store already quantified to 8 bit).

I've been thinking of using another service for bigger contexts. But this may not make sense then.

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by PenisBanana »

DonHopkins wrote: post #62
llm_trw wrote: post #51

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Ah yes, google a company known for not injecting an ideology into their AI: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/23/google-gemini-ai... Nor building AI tools for the pentagon to bomb Yemeni weddings more efficiently: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Maven

That's his whole point. And that Elon is even more biased and actively purposefully horrible and unethical than that. By validly criticising Google, you're just reinforcing his point. Didn't you read the part where he wrote "(You know it's bad when Google is ethical in comparison.)"? Do you know of anyone at Google who overpaid billions of dollars for a popular widely used communication platform just to use it to pub…

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Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by schmidp »

pixl97 wrote: post #76
john_alan wrote: post #73

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Why do you strongly resist products by Musk? He runs highly competent firms.

[Cars crash] Option 1. Fix cars not to crash Option 2. Buy president and have reporting agencies closed.

I believe your are projecting your own morals.

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by tgsovlerkhgsel »

nialv7 wrote: post #89
sunaookami wrote: post #52

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Status page is updated now: https://azure.status.microsoft/ >Impact Statement: Starting at 18:44 UTC on 26 Dec 2024, you have been identified as a customer who was impacted by a power incident in South Central US and may experience a degraded experience. >Current Status: There was a power incident in the South Central US AZ03 which affected multiple services. We have applied mitigation and are actively validating rec…

Power outage seems really odd. Don't datacenters usually have multiple redundant power supplies + on-site backup power generation? Maybe power "incident" mean something else?

Things happen, e.g. the redundant system also failing, the system that should handle the failover failing, a short circuit that causes enough chaos that the redundant supply shuts down rather than feeding power into a potential fault, ...

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by toomuchtodo »

tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #95
nialv7 wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Power outage seems really odd. Don't datacenters usually have multiple redundant power supplies + on-site backup power generation? Maybe power "incident" mean something else?

Things happen, e.g. the redundant system also failing, the system that should handle the failover failing, a short circuit that causes enough chaos that the redundant supply shuts down rather than feeding power into a potential fault, ...

Amazon famously had an outage that was generator gremlins root cause [1] and tries to engineer around it [2].

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38114946

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15676820

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by CharlesW »

kshacker wrote: post #87
CharlesW wrote: post #58

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You'll be more successful with this the more you know how LLMs work. They're not "good" at math because they just predict text patterns based on training data rather than perform calculations based on logic and mathematical rules. To do this reliably, prepend your request to invoke a tool like OpenAI's Code Interpreter (e.g. "Code the answer to this: My last paycheck was December 20, 2024. I get paid biweekly. In whi…

Sure, thanks ! Your suggestion worked. I looked up my chat history and the following was my original question (my answer above was from memory) > I get paycheck every 2 weeks. Last paycheck was December 20, 2024. Which year will I have 27 paychecks? I sent it again and it bombed again. It seems your prompt and my prompt are quite similar, but I realize the suggestion (or direction) to it to code.

Awesome! I'm sure the following is not an original thought, but to me it feels like the era of LLMs-as-product is mostly dead, and the era of LLMs-as-component (LLMs-as-UX?) is the natural evolution where all future imminent gains will be realized, at least for chat-style use cases.

OpenAI's Code Interpreter was the first thing I saw which helped me understand that we really won't understand the impact of LLMs until they're released from their sandbox. This is why I find Apple's efforts to create standard interfaces to iOS/macOS apps and their data via App Intents so interesting. Even if Apple's on-device models can't beat competitors' cloud models, I think there's magic in that union of models and tools.

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by jasonjayr »

nialv7 wrote: post #89
sunaookami wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Status page is updated now: https://azure.status.microsoft/ >Impact Statement: Starting at 18:44 UTC on 26 Dec 2024, you have been identified as a customer who was impacted by a power incident in South Central US and may experience a degraded experience. >Current Status: There was a power incident in the South Central US AZ03 which affected multiple services. We have applied mitigation and are actively validating rec…

Power outage seems really odd. Don't datacenters usually have multiple redundant power supplies + on-site backup power generation? Maybe power "incident" mean something else?

I had equipment at a colo facility -- that had a (licensed, bonded, not fly-by-night) electrical tech accidentally drop a tool into the main bus connecting mains, generators, and batteries.

They are lucky they were able to walk away, but the facility was dark till someone could get in there and give the power equipment the green light.

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by bobjordan »

wkat4242 wrote: post #91
bobjordan wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's why I think it's worth it: 1. Larger Context Window (128K) With Pro-Mode, I can paste an entire firmware file—thousands of lines of code—along with detailed hardware references, and the model can actually process it. This isn’t possible with the smaller context window on the $20 tier. On the Pro plan, I’ve pasted like 30+ pages of MCU datasheet information plus multiple header files in a single go. The model i…

How much context do you get on the $20 plan? I run llama3 at home which technically does 128k but that eats vram like crazy so I can't go further than 80k before I fill it (and that is with the KV store already quantified to 8 bit). I've been thinking of using another service for bigger contexts. But this may not make sense then.

The sales page shows the $20 plus plan has 32K context window.

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by kshacker »

deadbabe wrote: post #90
kshacker wrote: post #39

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ChatGPT does much better when it gets it right. Stackoverflow will have duplicates, approximates and what not and sometimes that works. But at other times, you hunt for a half hour before you figure it out. You can throw the problem at ChatGPT, it may go wrong but your course correct it with simple instructions and slowly but steadily you move towards your goal with minimal noise of the irrelevant discussions. What s…

Hunting for half an hour gradually increases your understanding of the problem and may give you new ideas for solutions, you’re missing out. ChatGPT will make your brain soft, and eventually mush.

I hear you but we can look at it in many different ways. I still own the solution, I am still going to certify the output. But maybe it allows me to be more productive so I may go soft in some areas, but deliver more in other areas by knowing how best to use the variety of tools available to me.

And by no means I am giving up on stackoverflow, it is just another tool, but its primacy may be in doubt. Just like for the last couple of years I would search for some information by pointing google to reddit, I will now have a mental map of when to go to chatter, when to go to SO, and when to go to reddit.

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