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Re: Blackcandy: Self hosted music streaming server

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I've been using Plex (connecting via Tailscale) with their Plexamp music player. It's been working pretty well, but I might have to give this a try to compare. Although, it's not clear from the GitHub README or the Apple App Store listing if the mobile app allows you to download music for offline listening.

Same, but Jellyfin.

I tred it with Emby but I had so much music, it slowed down the search engine noticeably.

Re: Blackcandy: Self hosted music streaming server

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I'm probably missing something. Why self-host when for $10/mo. you can access a nearly unlimited catalog of music on Spotify with integration on phone, PC, car, Sonos, etc?

Because a person might be willing:

-to directly support artists with buying the albums or songs at full price, rather than letting Spotify barely pay artists anything for their music (especially independent ones without industry connections)

-knowing you own your library and that once you’ve purchased media, there is nothing to take it away other than the sands of time taking back its silicate

-one does not need unlimited access to songs they will never hear, especially when natural discoverability on Spotify is so so versus trawling through sites like Bandcamp, Earmilk, RCRDLBL (I know it doesn’t exist anymore), or other places where new artists show their work in a way that Spotify doesn’t provide

Re: Blackcandy: Self hosted music streaming server

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For Musicbrainz I use beets to import/organise the songs into my library directory structure. For stuff not on mb I use fb2k as it has a fairly decent tagger and move it to the local external drive, which is synced to the server. At home I usually just use fb2k to play to my sound system via an interface, and on the go I use play:Sub connected to the navidrome instance transcoded to 160k OPUS (initially over tailscal…

I use FB2k with picard and MB. If its not in the MB, I add it myself. With bookmarklests and picard this is very fast process. Beets is too much work. I don't always have shell around nor I want to remote for this. This thing I use works on whatever machine I am currently. I use jelly for convenience to connect to my media server when I am not at home. At home, I always use foobar2k which simply rocks for precise sea…

I used to add stuff to MB but it's a bit involved as a process and honestly I'm too lazy a lot of the time. Picard is fine as a GUI tagger but I like foo.

If I can't pick what to listen to I quite like radiooooo, Radio Paradise, Radio Meuh, etc.

Re: Blackcandy: Self hosted music streaming server

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I tried this (among a bunch of others) about a year ago and landed on Gonic[1] for the server and Supersonic[2] on PC and Amperfy[3] on mobile. Yes it's a few different tools to maintain (plus beets etc), but it's the ideal set of features etc for me. Self-hosting has been fun and I've started experimenting with local LLMs to build playlists which is helping discoverability.. or more /rediscovering/ artists that I ha…

Is there an Apple Watch app for this tech stack? That’s what my current (totally different) solution is missing.

Re: Blackcandy: Self hosted music streaming server

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A lot of talk here about different solutions. I wonder if there's a universal interoperable standard for self hosted music streaming these days? I'm still using the old Logitech Media Server (with some physical Squeezeboxen), but something a bit more featureful would be great. Especially with good indexing and search. And if it could interoperate so I could choose different clients and server, and wouldn't be tied to that software.

Re: Blackcandy: Self hosted music streaming server

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OK, I will ask. I presume you purchased all those music files that you host on that certain server, didn’t you? I will also assume that there is no tool that lets you acquire music MP3s (or some appropriate file type which is non-audiophile listenable) the Linux ISO way (without having to hunt them songs one by one), right? I am talking about someone already having a Spotify/apple music playlists/likes/favourites. Al…

>OK, I will ask. I presume you purchased all those music files that you host on that certain server, didn’t you? I self-host my music streaming with Plex, and I'll go ahead and admit to you that no -- not all of my music is paid for. >Also, these self hosted music services mean — no new music reco/discover, right? I've discovered more music, and more interesting music, through my Plex server in 6 months than I have o…

Roon (proprietary) has great music discovery features like this. They curate a structured database of all the people related to each act, recording, etc. every artist has an info page with lots of links, so you can trace collaborators across projects. They use the same data to power a really good radio and album recommendation features.

https://roon.app/en/music/data

Re: Blackcandy: Self hosted music streaming server

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I'm probably missing something. Why self-host when for $10/mo. you can access a nearly unlimited catalog of music on Spotify with integration on phone, PC, car, Sonos, etc?

People are already self-hosting other things maybe, and you can self-host from a PC at home without needing to pay hosting. The advantages are control over data, greater privacy, etc.

I home-selfhost Jellyfin, so I can access media (music, movies and series) from mobile, tablet or TV.

I can imagine a group of friends hosting on a common VPS, like some sort of private Netflix but nearly unlimited.

Re: Blackcandy: Self hosted music streaming server

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I'm probably missing something. Why self-host when for $10/mo. you can access a nearly unlimited catalog of music on Spotify with integration on phone, PC, car, Sonos, etc?

Apart from many reasons mentioned by others, I find the "nearly unlimited" catalog to be very overrated. Every time someone asks me to queue a song, it's on Spotify maybe 50% of the time - as soon as you start delving into dance/single-oriented genres of the past, streaming services just won't cut it.

For the record (heh) I also have an extensive vinyl/tape/CD collection in addition to a few TB of pirated FLACs.

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