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Siyuan: Privacy-first, self-hosted personal knowledge management software

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Re: Siyuan: Privacy-first, self-hosted personal knowledge management software

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I've been using this for a couple of years on my home-server.

It's an Obsidian knock-off. It's pretty janky and the documentation is lacking. It's open-source which is nice... But the company behind it is ??? I don't know. They are Chinese but I couldn't find much about them.

I use it because I can self-host it, it has most of the features Obsidian has, and I can use it in a web-browser from anywhere - which is the biggest feature for me that Obsidian lacks.

Re: Siyuan: Privacy-first, self-hosted personal knowledge management software

#32

I keep seeing these note-taking tools pop up again and again. I am heavily invested into Logseq already and the new database version is coming out soon. Unless these tools provide import and export utilities to convert your notes between the most popular applications like Logseq and Obsidian, only new users will use them and people with very few notes who can put in the time to move.

Creating a note taking, personal productivity app is an elaborate but common procrastination technique for developers.

Re: Siyuan: Privacy-first, self-hosted personal knowledge management software

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This looks nice but nearly identical to Obsidian. How does it differ from Obsidian's features?

Obsidian sync feature is paid service, this project you can setup your own service

You can just sync Obsidian with nextcloud, Dropbox or whatever

Re: Siyuan: Privacy-first, self-hosted personal knowledge management software

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What I miss from this type of apps, including notion, is the ability to "inherit" properties from databases. I would like, for example, to create a superdb with basic task properties (title, deadline) and then create subdatabases that add more project-specific properties. This, I'll be able to create a single view with all my tasks for the day in a single place, but also add all the info I need for individual tasks.…

I think Tana can do this with the "supertags" feature.

https://tana.inc/docs/supertags

Re: Siyuan: Privacy-first, self-hosted personal knowledge management software

#36
The licensing is kind of strange. Self-hosted syncing is supposedly a paid feature, and there are indeed license checks in the code, but unlike your typical open core product with a separately licensed ee/ directory, this one including license checking code is entirely under AGPL, and FAQ specifically stresses “SiYuan is completely open source”. As such one can patch out the license check (literally a one line change if I’m not mistaken, I only scanned the code) and still completely license-compliant, and one can even distribute binaries of the patched out version, though that would be a major jerk move. So, is that intended? Only selling convenience of prebuilt images?

Re: Siyuan: Privacy-first, self-hosted personal knowledge management software

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems to be open source, which is a big plus compared to obsidian

Not fully open source. It seems you need to pay to get the privilege to "Export PDF/Image with watermark". https://b3log.org/siyuan/en/pricing.html

The code is indeed entirely AGPL, I looked at license headers in the specific files implementing paid features. I wonder if it’s an oversight. See my other comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42514304 for details.

Re: Siyuan: Privacy-first, self-hosted personal knowledge management software

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I've been using this for a couple of years on my home-server. It's an Obsidian knock-off. It's pretty janky and the documentation is lacking. It's open-source which is nice... But the company behind it is ??? I don't know. They are Chinese but I couldn't find much about them. I use it because I can self-host it, it has most of the features Obsidian has, and I can use it in a web-browser from anywhere - which is the b…

I also installed it on my computer to give it a try, but then as you mentioned I could not find who are behind it other than it's based in China. So decided to just keep with Obsidian

Re: Siyuan: Privacy-first, self-hosted personal knowledge management software

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This looks nice but nearly identical to Obsidian. How does it differ from Obsidian's features?

The file format isn't markdown, instead a proprietary format in JSON

I'm not an Obsidian user, but I agree with their "file over app" philosophy.[1]

If SiYuan stops being developed, are the files still readable/parse-able?

[1]: https://stephango.com/file-over-app

Re: Siyuan: Privacy-first, self-hosted personal knowledge management software

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I've been using this for a couple of years on my home-server. It's an Obsidian knock-off. It's pretty janky and the documentation is lacking. It's open-source which is nice... But the company behind it is ??? I don't know. They are Chinese but I couldn't find much about them. I use it because I can self-host it, it has most of the features Obsidian has, and I can use it in a web-browser from anywhere - which is the b…

I also installed it on my computer to give it a try, but then as you mentioned I could not find who are behind it other than it's based in China. So decided to just keep with Obsidian

Took me like a minute to find out who are behind it. Committers on GitHub project point to two profiles:

- https://github.com/88250

- https://github.com/Vanessa219

The first profile has a README (zh-CN, easily translated) introducing themselves as a married couple as well as their career trajectory leading to their current company. Googling the company name leads me to https://www.tianyancha.com/company/3153162387 showing the company’s legal structure, the legal names of the couple, their address, etc. (again, zh-CN but easily translated). Looks like I can view their financial reports too if I have a subscription.

The profiles also link to their social media accounts (on their own dev-focused community).

What more is there to know? At least it’s more than the average ShowHN asking for your email and sometimes credit card. I don’t understand these “couldn’t find much about them” claims.

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