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The Swedish cabin on the frontline of a possible hybrid war

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Re: The Swedish cabin on the frontline of a possible hybrid war

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Probably a stupid question, but why don't we encase the (undersea) cable in some metal container or something so that it would not be so easy to break? Is it due to economics? Is the constant fixing in the end cheaper than making it hard to break, or perhaps it needs maintenance anyway often enough to make it a hassle?

The other approach that can work in some areas is to use a plough to bury the undersea cable in a trench. This is much slower, more expensive, and damaging to the marine environment.

https://www.royalihc.com/offshore-energy/offshore-equipment/...

Re: The Swedish cabin on the frontline of a possible hybrid war

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Probably a stupid question, but why don't we encase the (undersea) cable in some metal container or something so that it would not be so easy to break? Is it due to economics? Is the constant fixing in the end cheaper than making it hard to break, or perhaps it needs maintenance anyway often enough to make it a hassle?

It would cost so much material. I think it would be more economical to just bury it. With an automated robot of course. It would also make it a hell of a lot harder for an attacker to locate the cable. But I don't know if these already exist.

Re: The Swedish cabin on the frontline of a possible hybrid war

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Tangential, after reading the description of the archipelago. Sweden is the country with most islands in the world, followed by Norway and Finland. https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/which-countries-have-the...

If you've never visited the Stockholm archipelago, I highly recommend it. In fact, I think it's perhaps the best thing about Stockholm, and one of the most beautiful places in the world in general — if you're into sailing, islands and seas. It's almost too easy to find an island just for yourself for the weekend, and "Allemansrätten", the law that grants people the right to access wilderness, only makes it even more accessible. Going there at the midst of winter or during summer are both very different experiences, but both are very charming.

Re: The Swedish cabin on the frontline of a possible hybrid war

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Tangential, after reading the description of the archipelago. Sweden is the country with most islands in the world, followed by Norway and Finland. https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/which-countries-have-the...

Do they use the same methods to define "island"?

The section for Australia seems very broad: "Australia itself dominates the islands around its coastal fringe, which range in size from smaller rocks that are not covered by water at high tide to ..."

While it says the US has 18,617 islands, I struggle to find an official source for that very precise number.

I also see how https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_islands_of_Florida says "The U.S. state of Florida has a total of 4,510 islands that are ten acres or larger", suggesting that ten acres is the minimum sized used for "island" in the US.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_islands_of_Maine says "Maine is home to over 4,600 coastal islands, ranging from large landmasses like Mount Desert Island to small islets and ledges exposed above mean high tide."

Clearly these are not using the same definitions.

I managed to find the Global Islands data set at https://www.sciencebase.gov/catalog/item/63bdf25dd34e92aad3c... with an explorer at https://rmgsc.cr.usgs.gov/gie/ which should have exactly what I want, except 1) it only lists ocean islands, not inland ones, and 2) I can't figure out how to get the data by country.

It categories things as "Big Islands (greater than 1 km2), Small Islands (less than or equal to 1 km2 and greater than or equal to 0.0036 km2), and Very Small Islands (less than 0.0036 km2)." "There are 21,818 big islands in the database. The remaining 318,868 islands are all less than 1 km2 and are classed as small islands.'

I give up.

Re: The Swedish cabin on the frontline of a possible hybrid war

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Tangential, after reading the description of the archipelago. Sweden is the country with most islands in the world, followed by Norway and Finland. https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/which-countries-have-the...

Do they use the same methods to define "island"? The section for Australia seems very broad: "Australia itself dominates the islands around its coastal fringe, which range in size from smaller rocks that are not covered by water at high tide to ..." While it says the US has 18,617 islands, I struggle to find an official source for that very precise number. I also see how https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_islands_…

I don't think that quote implies a limit for the definition in any way. It just says that this is the count below a given threshold. It doesn't say anything about that threshold being a standard or anything of that sort.
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