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Re: Hoarder: Self-hostable bookmark-everything app

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Post by WillAdams »

It's a nice idea, but really, bookmarks aren't enough.

I can still distinctly remember reading a site which had Barry Hughart's typewritten notes for his novels (_Bridge of Birds_, _The Story of the Stone_, and _Eight Skilled Gentlemen_), and I considered saving the files for the image scans, but didn't figuring they would always be available.

Since then, he has passed away and the pages in question vanished (no idea on what order that occurred), and I haven't been able to figure out who is in charge of his literary estate, nor where his papers are stored.

I'd give a lot for someone to write a book examining his writings in a scholarly context.

If I think something might be interesting enough to read later, I print it to a PDF --- as a bonus, that means I can send it to my Kindle Scribe to read at my convenience.

Re: Hoarder: Self-hostable bookmark-everything app

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Post by codetrotter »

user_7832 wrote: post #67
spondyl wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might be thinking of https://raindrop.io which is developed by a Kazakh developer?

Thanks a lot but I don’t think it’s that, I’ve been aware of raindrop for quite some time (even before I knew of this one I think) and this app only had a paid tier, no free/selfhosted options (which is why I didn’t bother making an account.) (Just thinking out loud.. if I were to find all HN threads discussing such apps (maybe searching for raindrop or pocket?) via the search I might find it more quickly.)

Could it be Anybox? Never used it myself but seems like a possible candidate.

https://anybox.app/

It does not have self-hosted, although it does have a free tier. The free tier is pretty limited, allowing just 50 bookmarks. So basically amounts to a free trial more than something you’d use for free for a long time, IMO.

The website is available in English and Chinese, so the developers might be from China.

Re: Hoarder: Self-hostable bookmark-everything app

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Post by jonotime »

trestacos wrote: post #13
edoceo wrote: post #10

I've one I built called Cras. Store all my neat things I find on the web there. Recently turned it into a PWA so it's a share-target on my phone (Android) which is awesome. It's self-hosted and all packed into SQLite so, IMO, very portable. Recently added a trick to snapshot all the public links I save - my copy and on Archive.is - link rot is real.

I've been thinking about building a service that makes it easy to self host apps like this. I'm curious if you'd find it useful. It would host webapps like yours that use in browser sqlite to store data, then the service provide a sync their sqlite data across different devices. The user not the app would pay for the storage of the data, so they would own their data. And you can use CSP to lock down the app from shar…

I am working on this problem from another angle. Where instead of hosting, the user only has to bring a sync solution. No services or auth needed - only storage. See more here: https://github.com/jonocodes/savr?tab=readme-ov-file#why-ano...

Re: Hoarder: Self-hostable bookmark-everything app

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Post by aeonik »

ninalanyon wrote: post #70
anovick wrote: post #40

Seems like the tag system is flat, which is a big limitation on the organization capability. For example, I noticed that in the demo access app, there's a note about cooking, and it has 4 tags: - `baking` - `cupcakes` - `oven cooking` - `recipe` This would get out of hand quickly. There should be a hierarchy of tags (categories): `cupcakes` in `baking` in `oven cooking` in `recipe` The only tag needed in this case fo…

> This would get out of hand quickly. Hierarchies get out of hand quickly too. You will soon find that different people (or the same person at different times) create different hierarchies for the same thing and that the same thing belongs in multiple places.

Polyhierarchies combined with RAG is the one true way.

Re: Hoarder: Self-hostable bookmark-everything app

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Post by mohamedbassem »

Fabricio20 wrote: post #60
mohamedbassem wrote: post #34

Hoarder's maintainer here! What a nice surprise seeing Hoarder on the homepage of hackernews!

I must ask, in your github readme you say "[Planned] Downloading the content for offline reading." but what does that mean in the context of a self hosted application? Isn't the data already downloaded - via the other features such as "Full page archival" and "Automatic fetching". I guess one small request - could the chrome/firefox extension include a way to transfer the page data from the browser, as it's being dis…

The offline reading thing is bad wording from my side. I mean offline reading on the mobile app (when you don't have internet access / access to the server).

As for your request, we're tracking this in (https://github.com/hoarder-app/hoarder/issues/172), which aims to do exactly what you're asking for.

Re: Hoarder: Self-hostable bookmark-everything app

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Post by jonotime »

mohamedbassem wrote: post #34

Hoarder's maintainer here! What a nice surprise seeing Hoarder on the homepage of hackernews!

Question for ya since I'm working on an app with similar platforms - and dont know what I'm doing. I see you used expo for the mobile apps but nextjs for the web app. Why didnt you use expo for the web app too?

Re: Hoarder: Self-hostable bookmark-everything app

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Post by UltraSane »

anovick wrote: post #40

Seems like the tag system is flat, which is a big limitation on the organization capability. For example, I noticed that in the demo access app, there's a note about cooking, and it has 4 tags: - `baking` - `cupcakes` - `oven cooking` - `recipe` This would get out of hand quickly. There should be a hierarchy of tags (categories): `cupcakes` in `baking` in `oven cooking` in `recipe` The only tag needed in this case fo…

A flat tagging system doesn't require much curation while nested tags require someone to decide what tags are members of what other tags. Taken to the logical extreme a hierarchical tagging system becomes a full blown ontology.

Re: Hoarder: Self-hostable bookmark-everything app

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Post by UltraSane »

aeonik wrote: post #74
ninalanyon wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This would get out of hand quickly. Hierarchies get out of hand quickly too. You will soon find that different people (or the same person at different times) create different hierarchies for the same thing and that the same thing belongs in multiple places.

Polyhierarchies combined with RAG is the one true way.

Just give me a Neo4j database and Cypher to query it.

Re: Hoarder: Self-hostable bookmark-everything app

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Post by edoceo »

paul-tharun wrote: post #68
edoceo wrote: post #10

I've one I built called Cras. Store all my neat things I find on the web there. Recently turned it into a PWA so it's a share-target on my phone (Android) which is awesome. It's self-hosted and all packed into SQLite so, IMO, very portable. Recently added a trick to snapshot all the public links I save - my copy and on Archive.is - link rot is real.

is it open source? Can you share the link for it please.

Not yet, but I will.

Re: Hoarder: Self-hostable bookmark-everything app

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Post by user_7832 »

codetrotter wrote: post #72
user_7832 wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks a lot but I don’t think it’s that, I’ve been aware of raindrop for quite some time (even before I knew of this one I think) and this app only had a paid tier, no free/selfhosted options (which is why I didn’t bother making an account.) (Just thinking out loud.. if I were to find all HN threads discussing such apps (maybe searching for raindrop or pocket?) via the search I might find it more quickly.)

Could it be Anybox? Never used it myself but seems like a possible candidate. https://anybox.app/ It does not have self-hosted, although it does have a free tier. The free tier is pretty limited, allowing just 50 bookmarks. So basically amounts to a free trial more than something you’d use for free for a long time, IMO. The website is available in English and Chinese, so the developers might be from China.

Thanks a lot! There's a very reasonable chance is is anybox! (The app I was thinking about wasn't self hosted, sorry about the confusion.) I'll check archive.org to see what it looked like a few months/year ago. (The "clean" and simple name along with the landing page style is definitely similar.)
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