It’s always kind of a relief when I can completely remove something from my long list of things to check out. Life’s too short to bother with proprietary platforms. A closed source database? Hah, no.
Indeed.
ScyllaDB no longer open source
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Re: ScyllaDB no longer open source
#12Discussion (64 points, 6 days ago, 27 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42457680
I'm surprised it didn't get more upvotes, but probably because most people missed it at this time of year. (I did the first time too) I found it kinda surprising (it's kinda tough when a primary DB choice is no longer open source!), although not that surprising given the fact that this keeps happening to VC-backed DB startups.
VC backed or not, what is the launch trajectory? Any DB that gets even a little bit of traction is quickly turned into a hosted service by one of the major cloud providers with full support, eliminating the primary path to revenue for these devs. Their options are??
Patreon and pray or go broke?
The Redhat model just doesn’t work in 2024 with the sharks constantly looking for fresh meat.
Re: ScyllaDB no longer open source
#13> ScyllaDB OSS AGPL 6.2 will stand as the final OSS AGPL release... A free tier of the full-featured ScyllaDB Enterprise will be available. I wonder if this means YDB (from the devs of Clickhouse) will get some traction ( https://ydb.tech/ ) or if there are other massive scale scylladb-types of DB's out there.
Is ydb same as yugabyte?
You can click the link, but both are attractive; yugabyte and ydb; they are now 'newsql' as people call it I think; sql that scales without the pain (of course there is pain, but other pain). Both have good licenses. Yugabyte is a mixed license, but the apache parts are enough for our use for instance.
Re: ScyllaDB no longer open source
#14Discussion (64 points, 6 days ago, 27 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42457680
I'm surprised it didn't get more upvotes, but probably because most people missed it at this time of year. (I did the first time too) I found it kinda surprising (it's kinda tough when a primary DB choice is no longer open source!), although not that surprising given the fact that this keeps happening to VC-backed DB startups.
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Re: ScyllaDB no longer open source
#15It’s always kind of a relief when I can completely remove something from my long list of things to check out. Life’s too short to bother with proprietary platforms. A closed source database? Hah, no.
your comment made me think I read it wrong, but it's not closed source, they're just moving to a source available license...
Re: ScyllaDB no longer open source
#16> ScyllaDB OSS AGPL 6.2 will stand as the final OSS AGPL release... A free tier of the full-featured ScyllaDB Enterprise will be available. I wonder if this means YDB (from the devs of Clickhouse) will get some traction ( https://ydb.tech/ ) or if there are other massive scale scylladb-types of DB's out there.
Is ydb same as yugabyte?
no, they are different technologies
Re: ScyllaDB no longer open source
#17It’s always kind of a relief when I can completely remove something from my long list of things to check out. Life’s too short to bother with proprietary platforms. A closed source database? Hah, no.
your comment made me think I read it wrong, but it's not closed source, they're just moving to a source available license...
A database license that only lets you store 10TB data might as well be closed source
Re: ScyllaDB no longer open source
#18It’s always kind of a relief when I can completely remove something from my long list of things to check out. Life’s too short to bother with proprietary platforms. A closed source database? Hah, no.
your comment made me think I read it wrong, but it's not closed source, they're just moving to a source available license...
> Licensor grants You a limited, non-exclusive, revocable, non-sublicensable, non-transferable,
For now it's source-available with generous limit, but this can be changed or revoked at any time, and this may immediately make your existing installations illegal.
Re: ScyllaDB no longer open source
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm surprised it didn't get more upvotes, but probably because most people missed it at this time of year. (I did the first time too) I found it kinda surprising (it's kinda tough when a primary DB choice is no longer open source!), although not that surprising given the fact that this keeps happening to VC-backed DB startups.
VC backed or not, what is the launch trajectory? Any DB that gets even a little bit of traction is quickly turned into a hosted service by one of the major cloud providers with full support, eliminating the primary path to revenue for these devs. Their options are?? Patreon and pray or go broke? The Redhat model just doesn’t work in 2024 with the sharks constantly looking for fresh meat.
Launch as closed source / source available right away? Having alternative suppliers is one of the major advantages of OSS after all.
Very few people are complaining about existance of commercial products. People get unhappy when company starts by claiming "open source", attracts followers, and then suddenly becomes "closed source".
Re: ScyllaDB no longer open source
#20It’s always kind of a relief when I can completely remove something from my long list of things to check out. Life’s too short to bother with proprietary platforms. A closed source database? Hah, no.
your comment made me think I read it wrong, but it's not closed source, they're just moving to a source available license...
Tomato, tomato. If it’s not FOSS, I’m not going to sign off on wasting time on it.
(Yes, of course I use proprietary services where necessary and they can’t be avoided. This isn’t one of those cases. Example of things where I’m pretty adamant about it: server OSes. Databases. Programming languages. Web servers.)