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Re: Hoarder: Self-hostable bookmark-everything app

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Post by mohamedbassem »

anovick wrote: post #40

Seems like the tag system is flat, which is a big limitation on the organization capability. For example, I noticed that in the demo access app, there's a note about cooking, and it has 4 tags: - `baking` - `cupcakes` - `oven cooking` - `recipe` This would get out of hand quickly. There should be a hierarchy of tags (categories): `cupcakes` in `baking` in `oven cooking` in `recipe` The only tag needed in this case fo…

The tagging system is indeed flat, but the lists can be nested. The idea being that tags are usually AI generated, and there's a lot of them (which is useful for search), but lists are meant for manual curation and this is where you can have whatever structure you want.

Re: Hoarder: Self-hostable bookmark-everything app

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Post by jhogendorn »

evolve2k wrote: post #50

When I think hoarder, there’s a different app I want. We’ve got a shed full of boxes and bags of stuff. Want an easy way to take pics of the contents of a box and the “box number” and be able to browse for the box or specific contents later. Eg a home archive solution. Anyone know of tools for that?

Inventree or homebox are what you want.

Re: Hoarder: Self-hostable bookmark-everything app

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Post by anovick »

mohamedbassem wrote: post #51
anovick wrote: post #40

Seems like the tag system is flat, which is a big limitation on the organization capability. For example, I noticed that in the demo access app, there's a note about cooking, and it has 4 tags: - `baking` - `cupcakes` - `oven cooking` - `recipe` This would get out of hand quickly. There should be a hierarchy of tags (categories): `cupcakes` in `baking` in `oven cooking` in `recipe` The only tag needed in this case fo…

The tagging system is indeed flat, but the lists can be nested. The idea being that tags are usually AI generated, and there's a lot of them (which is useful for search), but lists are meant for manual curation and this is where you can have whatever structure you want.

Happy to see that you have considered this

IMO it would be interesting to try to combine the two approaches (curation + auto tagging).

It starts out with the user scaffolding an initial hierarchy, then (after enough usage to provide meaningful data for ML predictions) the ML model predicts on subsequent entries, and asks the user for approval (which feeds a reinforcement learning model)

Re: Hoarder: Self-hostable bookmark-everything app

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Post by mohamedbassem »

anovick wrote: post #54
mohamedbassem wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The tagging system is indeed flat, but the lists can be nested. The idea being that tags are usually AI generated, and there's a lot of them (which is useful for search), but lists are meant for manual curation and this is where you can have whatever structure you want.

Happy to see that you have considered this IMO it would be interesting to try to combine the two approaches (curation + auto tagging). It starts out with the user scaffolding an initial hierarchy, then (after enough usage to provide meaningful data for ML predictions) the ML model predicts on subsequent entries, and asks the user for approval (which feeds a reinforcement learning model)

This is indeed the plan. We're currently working on generating embeddings for the all the bookmarks stored, and one of the usecases of this is going to be clustering. If a bookmark is similar to all other bookmarks in a list, the model can suggest adding those bookmarks to the list. Still a manual operation, but with ML assistance.

Re: Hoarder: Self-hostable bookmark-everything app

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Post by Openai2 »

raybb wrote: post #26
elashri wrote: post #7

I tried hoarder and I didn't like the way listed view works. I prefer the simplicity of the view provided by Linkding. I find hoarder new auto tagging with ollama something I want to use because I am lazy. For references there are many options in selfhosted bookmarking apps market. These beside Hoarder are the most known software. Linkwarden ( https://github.com/linkwarden/linkwarden ) Shaarli ( https://github.com/sh…

When I use a tool like this one of the most important things is that it works offline so I can read something in a plane or on the go. I've looked into most of these (and instapaper, pocket, etc) and ultimately found Wallabag to be the best. However, their app is quite buggy and site is fairly clunky for my taste. Luckily there's a pretty recent 3rd party client that works offline super well and is on Mac/Linux/andro…

Why is Wallabag better than pocket?

Re: Hoarder: Self-hostable bookmark-everything app

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Post by pm »

oDot wrote: post #47
anovick wrote: post #40

Seems like the tag system is flat, which is a big limitation on the organization capability. For example, I noticed that in the demo access app, there's a note about cooking, and it has 4 tags: - `baking` - `cupcakes` - `oven cooking` - `recipe` This would get out of hand quickly. There should be a hierarchy of tags (categories): `cupcakes` in `baking` in `oven cooking` in `recipe` The only tag needed in this case fo…

Hi there! I am extremely glad to read someone else write about this necessity! I own and operate a "list-taking" app[0] in which every list/kanban-item can itself be a list/kanban. I currently use it for things I'm the creator of -- tasks, story outlines, etc, but looking to introduce 3rd party content for task management (I want to see GitHub tasks from work next to my own tasks) and, as you say, knowledge managemen…

I may have come across your app before in passing, but hadn't checked it out. I playtested aspects of a "productivity system" (grain of salt) with paper earlier this year.

"Spontaneous productivity" mirrors some of my own thinking on the subject, especially the JIT and bubbling aspects and how they work together. I haven't seen how it works in the case of Nestful, but I'm keen to try it out. It may adjust the design principles guiding development.

Re: Hoarder: Self-hostable bookmark-everything app

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Post by Fabricio20 »

mohamedbassem wrote: post #34

Hoarder's maintainer here! What a nice surprise seeing Hoarder on the homepage of hackernews!

I must ask, in your github readme you say "[Planned] Downloading the content for offline reading." but what does that mean in the context of a self hosted application? Isn't the data already downloaded - via the other features such as "Full page archival" and "Automatic fetching".

I guess one small request - could the chrome/firefox extension include a way to transfer the page data from the browser, as it's being displayed to the user? (as in, transfer the entire page/html instead of the page's link). This would likely result in much better support for nasty sites like twitter and such that require credentials, etc..!

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