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How do you know the answers are correct? More than once I got eloquent answer that are completely wrong.
How do you address this problem with people? More than once a real live person has told me something that was wrong,
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Do we know LLMs are the path to AGI? If they're not, we'll just end up with some neat but eye wateringly expensive LLMs.
AGI will arrive like self driving cars. it’s not that you will wake up one day and we have it. cars gained auto-braking, parallel parking, cruise control assist. and over a long time you get to something like waymo, which still is location dependent. i think AGI will take decades but sooner will be some special cases that are effectively the same
When human started to improve himself, we built the civilisation, we became a super-predator, we dried out seas and changed climate of the entire planet. We extinguished entire species of animals and adapted other species for our use. Huge changes. AI could bring changes of greater amplitude.
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AGI will arrive like self driving cars. it’s not that you will wake up one day and we have it. cars gained auto-braking, parallel parking, cruise control assist. and over a long time you get to something like waymo, which still is location dependent. i think AGI will take decades but sooner will be some special cases that are effectively the same
AGI is special. Because one day AI can start improving itself autonomously. At this point singularity occurs and nobody knows what will happen. When human started to improve himself, we built the civilisation, we became a super-predator, we dried out seas and changed climate of the entire planet. We extinguished entire species of animals and adapted other species for our use. Huge changes. AI could bring changes of g…
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#654I'm sure the debate over the definition of AGI is important and will continue for a while, but... I can't care about it anymore. Between Perplexity searching and summarizing, Claude explaining, and qwen (and other tools) coding, I'm already as happy as can be with whatever you want to call this level of intelligence. Just today I used a completely local AI research tool, based on Ollama. It worked great. Maybe it won…
As a consumer you should always evaluate the product that is in front of you, not the one they promise in 6 months. If what's there is valuable to you, then that's great. When we discuss the potential AGI we're not talking as consumers, we're talking about the business side. If AGI is not reached, you'll see an absolutely enormous market correction, as it realizes that the product is not going to replace any human wo…
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AGI is the Sisyphean task of our age. We’ll push this boulder up the mountain because we have to, even if it kills us.
Do we know LLMs are the path to AGI? If they're not, we'll just end up with some neat but eye wateringly expensive LLMs.
Asking this question on HN is like asking a bunch of wolves about the health effects of eating red meat.
OpenAI farts and the post about the fart has 1000-1500 upvotes with everyone welcoming our new super intelligent overlords. (Meanwhile nothing actually substantially useful or groundbreaking has happened.)
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(throwaway account because of what I'm about to say, but it needs to be said) While my main use case for LLMs is coding just like most people here, there are lots of areas that are being ignored. Did you know llama 3.X models have been trained as psychotherapists? It's been invaluable to dump and discuss feelings with it in ways I wouldn't trust any regular person. When real therapists also cost more than what people…
While I empathize with the therapeutic effects, wouldn't this create even more powerful echo chambers? May be so many men and women of your generation are single because of already established echo chambers. It's in our nature to crave outside acceptance of who we are. But may be taken to extreme, when we stop being wanting to be challenged at all we could lose touch with reality, society...
The thing is though, LLMs do whatever you tune them to do. If you train them on a sycophantic corporate drone butler dataset, you get the average assistant model that's obviously a bad fit for this use case. If you train them on something else, you get whatever you want, even someone that challenges you. I wouldn't be surprised if having some sort of simulated soulmate partner thing that also does the job of an educator and life guide will be the norm in the future.
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AGI is the Sisyphean task of our age. We’ll push this boulder up the mountain because we have to, even if it kills us.
Do we know LLMs are the path to AGI? If they're not, we'll just end up with some neat but eye wateringly expensive LLMs.
The simple fact that AGI's definition has been twisted so much by OpenAI and other LLM providers since the release of GenAI models proves this.
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Ya I think they probably will, but "the chatgpt company" is not worth 157B. It might not even be worth 1B.
Not worth 1B ? Come on man. I see them improving the tool enough for most people willing to pay 50$ a month for a subscription. And for most companies to be willing to pay 300$ per employee. It's perhaps not there yet but I'm sure they'll reach this amount of value for their offering. It remains to be seen what competition will do to the prices though.
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When you think about it it's astounding how much energy this technology consumes versus a human brain which runs at ~20W [1]. [1] https://hypertextbook.com/facts/2001/JacquelineLing.shtml
It’s almost as if human intelligence doesn’t involve performing repeated matrix multiplications over a mathematically transformed copy of the internet. ;-)
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What human experts do you blindly trust without double checking?
Most human experts, when asked about their area of expertise, don't parrot what some guy said as joke on Reddit five years ago. Most lawyers, when you ask them to write a brief, will cite only real cases.