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Decline in teen drug use continues, surprising experts

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Re: Decline in teen drug use continues, surprising experts

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> they won't be buying homes, they won't be getting high paying jobs, and that the system is not going to work in their favor I dont have a clue what your upbringing looked like, but even up to around age of 25, I never ever expected nor was told to expect any of that. The success despite all that is much sweeter. Maybe thats some US thing, being raised in eastern Europe you were born to shit, you were considered ins…

> Teenagers being frustrated that they wont be owning some posh expensive house Posh expensive house? Nowhere was that mentioned. The post-WWII 20th century American social contract was: "You will have the ability to get married, live in a modest home of your own, own a car, raise 2-3 young children, and go on a modest annual vacation even if you work in a factory".

US home ownership rate has been in the 60% since WWII. What changed?

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> But, according to data released Tuesday, the number of eighth, 10th, and 12th graders who collectively abstained from the use of alcohol, marijuana, or nicotine hit a new high this year. Use of illicit drugs also fell on the whole and use of non-heroin narcotics (Vicodin, OxyContin, Percocet) hit an all-time low. From an unexpected conversation with some younger people not long ago (though not this young), they may…

You don't use LSD habitually. If they switched to LSD, then that's very interesting.

Maybe you don't, but, speaking for myself 20 years ago, some people do.

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Some do, and that's fine too.

> Some do, and that's fine too. And those should learn something from Syd Barret's life Could had been a millionaire rock star, women, expensive toys, children. He could had everything for the rest of his life. But he choose LSD. As a lot of people claim, LSD is a cool and harmless funny drug, right?. His life instead was: living in his mum house since 24 Yo, with his brain like a car crash, and all the time in the w…

The stories of what acid did to Syd Barrett are vastly exaggerated.

Re: Decline in teen drug use continues, surprising experts

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It's remarkable to me that many of the top-level comments on this story are all positing that something (i.e. the damn phones ) must have replaced drug use and we're just not accounting for it. And if it isn't the damn phones , then it must be that the kids are just too scared of modern-day drugs and the dangers lurking within. I'm not saying it's not phone addiction, or fentanyl in the weed, but is it really that ha…

Drugs of one kind or another have never been unpopular. So yes, it is hard to believe.

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With the proper mix of retirement accounts, options, and futures contracts it can. It can offer even more leverage if you want.

A retirement account is a ship in a bottle. You can't put much into it. The only way to make it huge is to take huge risks inside and have them work out. Which isn't a plan. And -- options? The most leverage I can think of reasonably getting would be LEAPS (calls) and rolling them. But, even with LEAPS, you have limited timing flexibility, and are forced to realize more gains/losses. There's nothing on par with a hou…

You can back door around $70k per year into a Roth currently I believe. I don’t know where you’re from, but few people would say that isn’t much.

And I’m not sure why you’re talking about LEAPS. Options are naturally leveraged: you have synthetic positions on [complicated Greeks math]*100 shares with every option. Theta is only one of the Greeks. Same with futures contracts re: natural leverage.

With respect to “bets” and having them go your way: dude you’re talking about a $200k investment on a property worth $1MM. It seems like your whole view on property ownership is premised on the idea that property values always go up no matter what. That’s no more a fundamental law of nature than the stock market going up, and a bet on the property value for a specific home in a specific location is probably riskier than a broad market fund options play.

I’m also not sure why you’re talking about the full price of a house? A $1MM house with 20% down means the comparator is 200k - you can't get that kind of cash together when you're young any more than you can get it into a retirement account. But to the extent you can, you can back door that into a Roth in 3 years, and you have plenty of stock/options/futures setups that will give you leverage to $1MM notional of exposure. And capital gains on that position are actually tax free by the way, no shenanigans required with 1031s and residential conversion or having to wait until you’re dead to get the tax benefits.

The bottom line is that buying property is rarely the best investment decision quantitatively because you can get equivalent (and often better) returns in the market while maintaining liquidity, meaning that you can almost always pivot into a house at a future date for cheaper (on an adjusted basis). But people FEEL good doing it, so the mainstream view is that owning a house should be a goal. Common sense oftentimes isn’t; owning vs renting is one of those times.

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It's a different beast, these days, though. Back then, only "nerds" socialized online. Nowadays, everyone does it. I'm of two minds about this. On one hand, I'm really glad that kids aren't screwing up their formative years. Drug use during growing/development years can wreck someone's life. The issue is that, if you are an addict (which is different from physical addiction. Many addicts never get physically addicted…

I was addicted to, of all things, text MUDs, when I was younger. It's ditch weed compared to what you can get now.

Dark Castle here. DIKU based MUD. Ah the good stuff.

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Yes I am aware of the "szmalcowniki", those that extorted Jews for profit and it is unfortunate. Are you aware of underground organizations like Żegota? Or Jan Karski who risked his life to document the Warsaw ghetto and providing munitions to the Jewish fighters in the uprising? Or the thousands of families that helped aid Jews like the Ulma family killed with the family they were hiding, or nun Matylda Getter who r…

I'm not saying nobody in Poland did anything, but that isn't the standard. I think this is the story: https://www.reuters.com/article/lifestyle/film-about-massacr...

>"Even if this terrible crime concerns only 1 percent of the Polish nation, it doesn't matter, because we want to know about that."

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It's a different beast, these days, though. Back then, only "nerds" socialized online. Nowadays, everyone does it. I'm of two minds about this. On one hand, I'm really glad that kids aren't screwing up their formative years. Drug use during growing/development years can wreck someone's life. The issue is that, if you are an addict (which is different from physical addiction. Many addicts never get physically addicted…

It was maybe only nerds in 1994, but by 1998 everyone at school was asking their parents for the internet so they could talk on ICQ—not just the nerds!

For sure, I remember that. I remember that even the most popular, non-techie kids got on ICQ, though it was probably more around 1999 by that point, but every kid that had a computer at home had an ICQ account (though how often they could actually go online and use it was another question, thanks to dialup lol)

Though, still, only the geeky kids like myself were spending numerous hours online and having a high % of socializing occuring online, even then. The non-computer-geek kids would come online for like, an hour or two. I had already been online for hours before them, and would still be for many hours afterward (it helped that we got ADSL in 1998, after so many years of 14.4/28.8 dialup)

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Gen Z was conditioned with algorithmic timelines and loot boxes (gambling).

I wonder if that’s why there’s now such a fucking problem with sports betting…

You can thank the supreme court for that. Also Trump ran 2015 in support of sports betting online: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murphy_v._National_Collegiate_...

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That is the raw number, not the rate. Since the spread of social media, suicide rates are up for children, significantly: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db471.pdf > The suicide rate for people aged 15–19 did not change significantly from 2001 through 2009, then increased 57% from 2009 through 2017 > For people aged 10–14, the suicide rate tripled from 2007 through 2018

The increase from 2009 could also be correlated with the rise of smartphones

Or a major financial crisis that left behind many people?
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