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Re: GPT-5 is behind schedule

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Post by omega3 »

phito wrote: post #5
A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #2

Counterpoint: o1-Pro is insanely good -- subjectively, it's as far above GPT4 as GPT4 was above 3. It's almost too good. Use it properly for an extended period of time, and one begins to worry about the future of one's children and the utility of their schooling. o3, by all accounts, is better still. Seems to me that things are progressing quickly enough.

I keep reading this on HN so I believe it has to be true in some ways, but I don't really feel like there is any difference in my limited use (programming questions or explaining some concepts). If anything I feel like it's all been worse compared to the first release of ChatGPT, but I might be wearing rose colored glasses.

Same, on every release from openai, anthropic I keep reading how the new model is so much better (insert hyperbole here) than the previous one yet when using it I feel like they are mostly the same as last year.

Re: GPT-5 is behind schedule

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Post by diego_sandoval »

_5hxt wrote: post #7

The world is figuring out how to make this technology fit and work and somehow this is "behind" schedule. It's almost comical.

Reminds me of this Louis CK joke:

I was on an airplane and there was high-speed Internet on the airplane. That's the newest thing that I know exists. And I'm sitting on the plane and they go, open up your laptop, you can go on the Internet.

And it's fast, and I'm watching YouTube clips. It's amazing. I'm on an airplane! And then it breaks down. And they apologize, the Internet's not working. And the guy next to me goes, 'This is bullshit.' I mean, how quickly does the world owe him something that he knew existed only 10 seconds ago?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me4BZBsHwZs

Re: GPT-5 is behind schedule

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Post by mensetmanusman »

diego_sandoval wrote: post #12
_5hxt wrote: post #7

The world is figuring out how to make this technology fit and work and somehow this is "behind" schedule. It's almost comical.

Reminds me of this Louis CK joke: I was on an airplane and there was high-speed Internet on the airplane. That's the newest thing that I know exists. And I'm sitting on the plane and they go, open up your laptop, you can go on the Internet. And it's fast, and I'm watching YouTube clips. It's amazing. I'm on an airplane! And then it breaks down. And they apologize, the Internet's not working. And the guy next to me go…

The investors need their returns now!

Soon, all the middle class jobs will be converted to profits for the capital/data center owners, so they have to spend while they can before the economy crashes due to lack of spending.

Re: GPT-5 is behind schedule

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Post by ionwake »

david-gpu wrote: post #8

What I find odd is that o1 doesn't support attaching text documents to chats the way 4o does. For a model that specializes in reasoning, reading long documents seems like a natural feature to have.

If Sama ever reads this, I have no idea why no users seem to focus on this, but it would be really good to prioritise being able to select which model you can use with the custom myGPTs. I know this maybe hard or not possible without recreating them , but I still dont think it's possible.

I dont think most customers realise how much better the models work with custom GPTs.

Re: GPT-5 is behind schedule

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Post by jillesvangurp »

david-gpu wrote: post #8

What I find odd is that o1 doesn't support attaching text documents to chats the way 4o does. For a model that specializes in reasoning, reading long documents seems like a natural feature to have.

You can use the new project feature for that. That's a way of grouping conversations, adding files, etc. Should work with o1 pro as well apparently.

Re: GPT-5 is behind schedule

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Post by echelon »

_5hxt wrote: post #7

The world is figuring out how to make this technology fit and work and somehow this is "behind" schedule. It's almost comical.

For a company that sees itself as the undisputed leader and that wants to raise $7 trillion to build fabs, they deserve some of the heaviest levels of scrutiny in the world.

If OpenAI's investment prospectus relies on them reaching AGI before the tech becomes commoditized, everyone is going to look for that weakness.

Re: GPT-5 is behind schedule

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Post by rubymamis »

anonzzzies wrote: post #9
A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #2

Counterpoint: o1-Pro is insanely good -- subjectively, it's as far above GPT4 as GPT4 was above 3. It's almost too good. Use it properly for an extended period of time, and one begins to worry about the future of one's children and the utility of their schooling. o3, by all accounts, is better still. Seems to me that things are progressing quickly enough.

Not sure what you are using it for, but it is terrible for me for coding; claude beats it always and hands down. o1 just thinks forever to come up with stuff it already tried the previous time. People say that's just prompting without pointing to real million line+ repositories or realistic apps to show how that can be improved. So I say they are making todo and hello world apps and yes, there it works really well. C…

I find that o1 and Sonnet 3.5 are good and bad quite equally on different things. That's why I keep asking both the same coding questions.

Re: GPT-5 is behind schedule

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Post by beacon294 »

jsheard wrote: post #13
_5hxt wrote: post #7

The world is figuring out how to make this technology fit and work and somehow this is "behind" schedule. It's almost comical.

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There's someone with this comment in every thread. Meanwhile, no one answers this because they are getting value. Please take the time to learn, it will give you value.

Re: GPT-5 is behind schedule

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Post by anonzzzies »

rubymamis wrote: post #18
anonzzzies wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure what you are using it for, but it is terrible for me for coding; claude beats it always and hands down. o1 just thinks forever to come up with stuff it already tried the previous time. People say that's just prompting without pointing to real million line+ repositories or realistic apps to show how that can be improved. So I say they are making todo and hello world apps and yes, there it works really well. C…

I find that o1 and Sonnet 3.5 are good and bad quite equally on different things. That's why I keep asking both the same coding questions.

We do the same (all requests go to o1, sonnet and gemini and we store the results for later to compare) automatically for our research: Claude always wins. Even with specific prompting on both platforms. Especially frontend it seems o1 really is terrible.
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