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Re: GPT-5 is behind schedule

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Counterpoint: o1-Pro is insanely good -- subjectively, it's as far above GPT4 as GPT4 was above 3. It's almost too good. Use it properly for an extended period of time, and one begins to worry about the future of one's children and the utility of their schooling.

o3, by all accounts, is better still.

Seems to me that things are progressing quickly enough.

Re: GPT-5 is behind schedule

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Counterpoint: o1-Pro is insanely good -- subjectively, it's as far above GPT4 as GPT4 was above 3. It's almost too good. Use it properly for an extended period of time, and one begins to worry about the future of one's children and the utility of their schooling. o3, by all accounts, is better still. Seems to me that things are progressing quickly enough.

what do you use it for ?

Re: GPT-5 is behind schedule

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Counterpoint: o1-Pro is insanely good -- subjectively, it's as far above GPT4 as GPT4 was above 3. It's almost too good. Use it properly for an extended period of time, and one begins to worry about the future of one's children and the utility of their schooling. o3, by all accounts, is better still. Seems to me that things are progressing quickly enough.

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Re: GPT-5 is behind schedule

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Counterpoint: o1-Pro is insanely good -- subjectively, it's as far above GPT4 as GPT4 was above 3. It's almost too good. Use it properly for an extended period of time, and one begins to worry about the future of one's children and the utility of their schooling. o3, by all accounts, is better still. Seems to me that things are progressing quickly enough.

I keep reading this on HN so I believe it has to be true in some ways, but I don't really feel like there is any difference in my limited use (programming questions or explaining some concepts).

If anything I feel like it's all been worse compared to the first release of ChatGPT, but I might be wearing rose colored glasses.

Re: GPT-5 is behind schedule

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post #5

Counterpoint: o1-Pro is insanely good -- subjectively, it's as far above GPT4 as GPT4 was above 3. It's almost too good. Use it properly for an extended period of time, and one begins to worry about the future of one's children and the utility of their schooling. o3, by all accounts, is better still. Seems to me that things are progressing quickly enough.

I keep reading this on HN so I believe it has to be true in some ways, but I don't really feel like there is any difference in my limited use (programming questions or explaining some concepts). If anything I feel like it's all been worse compared to the first release of ChatGPT, but I might be wearing rose colored glasses.

I'd say the same. I've tried a bunch of different AI tools, and none of them really seem all that helpful.

Re: GPT-5 is behind schedule

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What I find odd is that o1 doesn't support attaching text documents to chats the way 4o does. For a model that specializes in reasoning, reading long documents seems like a natural feature to have.

Re: GPT-5 is behind schedule

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Counterpoint: o1-Pro is insanely good -- subjectively, it's as far above GPT4 as GPT4 was above 3. It's almost too good. Use it properly for an extended period of time, and one begins to worry about the future of one's children and the utility of their schooling. o3, by all accounts, is better still. Seems to me that things are progressing quickly enough.

Not sure what you are using it for, but it is terrible for me for coding; claude beats it always and hands down. o1 just thinks forever to come up with stuff it already tried the previous time.

People say that's just prompting without pointing to real million line+ repositories or realistic apps to show how that can be improved. So I say they are making todo and hello world apps and yes, there it works really well. Claude still beats it, every.. single.. time..

And yes, I use the Pro of all and yes, I do assume coding is done for most of people. Become a plumber or electrician or carpenter.

Re: GPT-5 is behind schedule

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Counterpoint: o1-Pro is insanely good -- subjectively, it's as far above GPT4 as GPT4 was above 3. It's almost too good. Use it properly for an extended period of time, and one begins to worry about the future of one's children and the utility of their schooling. o3, by all accounts, is better still. Seems to me that things are progressing quickly enough.

O1 is effective, but it’s slow. I would expect a GPT-5 and mini to work as quickly as the 4 models.
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