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US judge finds NSO Group liable for hacking journalists via WhatsApp

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Re: US judge finds NSO Group liable for hacking journalists via WhatsApp

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Post by tptacek »

o999 wrote: post #108
tptacek wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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That is like saying that Russia is not liable for the cyber-sabotage done by hackers it harbors (and presumably funds, covertly). Israel is notorious of dodging responsibility, like carrying assassinations abroad that are set to look like accidents, just like Russia does. Take the assassination of Waddie Haddad and Yasser Arafat with slow poison as examples. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wadie_Haddad#Death [2] ht…

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Re: US judge finds NSO Group liable for hacking journalists via WhatsApp

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Post by dsp »

sangnoir wrote: post #110
trogdor wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every social media company allows legal spying. Warrants and wiretap orders are issued every day in the United States.

With end-user-device-controlled e2ee, the only information available to law enforcement is metadata. With a warrant, they could seize your device (or the backups, if unencrypted)

Unfortunately, I don’t think end-to-end encryption guarantees much when it comes to legal intercept in proprietary messaging apps. The intercept functionality could be done in the client and capture data, not just metadata.

Re: US judge finds NSO Group liable for hacking journalists via WhatsApp

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Post by CamelCaseName »

o999 wrote: post #111

NSO Group: Relationship with the Israeli state https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSO_Group#Relationship_with_th...

I'm quite surprised by the corporate history section.

Specifically, NSO Group is worth a lot less than I thought it was, even at its peak. ($1B+ valuation)

Also, the amount of infighting is... Surprising perhaps? Less surprising is the number of spinoffs out of it, and the number of competing Israeli spyware groups.

I'm constantly surprised by how good he Israeli startup environment seems to be.

Why is this? How are there so many acquisitions out of there?

Re: US judge finds NSO Group liable for hacking journalists via WhatsApp

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Post by Barrin92 »

wslh wrote: post #39

There are many other companies beyond NSO Group, if I were a journalist I would write a more comprehensive list of them and educate about this whole "industry".

this is a really good source: https://www.surveillancewatch.io/

Re: US judge finds NSO Group liable for hacking journalists via WhatsApp

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Post by kortilla »

CamelCaseName wrote: post #114
o999 wrote: post #111

NSO Group: Relationship with the Israeli state https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSO_Group#Relationship_with_th...

I'm quite surprised by the corporate history section. Specifically, NSO Group is worth a lot less than I thought it was, even at its peak. ($1B+ valuation) Also, the amount of infighting is... Surprising perhaps? Less surprising is the number of spinoffs out of it, and the number of competing Israeli spyware groups. I'm constantly surprised by how good he Israeli startup environment seems to be. Why is this? How are…

Things like this are similar to law firms. The shelf life of vulnerabilities means that there isn’t a lot of intellectual property owned by the company. The value is in the people’s skills.

So once people get really good they quickly realize they can make more by starting their own company and siphoning off client relationships.

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